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Old 03-24-2013, 02:11 PM
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1" tuck and roll

I am doing a 59 impala 4 dr hardtop. He wants one inch tuck and roll in white as the inserts and gray in place of the red with mylar strips over the back of the seat. I am starting from scratch, he had removed and pitched everything before I got the car. My problem is this, I have sewn my 1'' strips together, I cut them 1 1/4'' and had an 1/8'' seam on each side, everything looks great, until I put it on the foam. I was wondering if any of you had done this and if so what is the best way to accomplish a full look without taking to much from my strips? I ended up cutting each strip individually, it was much easier to keep straight being such a narrow piece. Thanks for for your help in advance.
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needless to say i don't do this.. but when i had my interior done he put foam backing on and then sewed it to the leather. this made my striping or rolls. used 1/4" foam on the side panels and i think 1/2 or 3/4" for the seat.. but all the material was ONE pc not a bunch of pieces sewn together..
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@delawarebill: What you had done is not true tuck and roll. True tuck and roll has no seams showing. The intent of it is to make thicker looking pleats. Here's a thread that explains how true tuck and roll is done: Tuck and roll tutorial It's hardly ever done any more the original way, and almost never with 1" wide pleats, because it is so hard to do. Mrshotrod, you came up with the best solution, make individual padded strips and then sew them together. You will have to do some trial and error to see what width pieces work the best.
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Thank you for your help guys, I really appreciate it.
Here is a pic of one of my inserts, no quite done, this is not sewn to any foam yet. What do you think would be the best foam to use? 1/4''? I hope I didnt set myself up for disater by sewing the strips together by themselves first. I was so worried about all the lines being straight, I thought that would be the best way. Its a shame you dont see the 1'' as much. I have only seen it a few times myself, but it always looks so nice.
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Nothing like a good challenge right? I seem to get myself into these situations to often. Dan-do you think I would be able to stuff these channels if I went ahead and sewed this to a backing, or do you think they would be to narrow? My very first seat was off a Harley sportster I opened my big mouth thinking I was gonna be this awesome trimmer, I suggested orange top stitching to match his bike, ha ha after at least 5 do overs I finally got it lol. Nothing like some bright orange stitching around really tight corners.
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I think you will find that gluing the vinyl to whatever foam you are using, sewing around the perimeter of each strip, and then sewing all those pieces together will work the best for you. I'm sure you can use 1/4" sew foam (which has a backing to hold the stitching) for your pleats.
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I see, I tried 3/4" at first but it was a little much. He wants full! Do you think it will have the depth like if I was doing 2", doing it this way. He has expectations, his friend had this in his car, I don't want to disappoint, he bought this car when he was 16, it is extra special.
Dan, thank you for your help! One of the hardest things about learning upholstery is the lack of people with the knowledge such as yours. I appreciate your time.
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I think you are going to have a really hard time filling the channels, see as how they are only 1" wide. Doing them as separate pieces will solve a lot of problems.
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Makes sense! I appreciate it! What's your opinion on the pieces I've sewn together already, should I pull them apart? Very tedious work cutting all these strips and putting together. I bought a 1/8" guide foot for my juki, it has helped a ton. This is one seat I don't want to do over.
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I would make all the pieces 2" wide and then sew 1/2" seams on both sides. That would make the pieces a lot easier to work with. If you use 1/2" foam instead of 1/4" it will help, but your customer is being a little unrealistic to expect 1" pleats to be 1" thick. Do an insert and make him sign off on it. Show him what he's asking for is a little off base.

Even if you got the insert to be 1" thick, then what do you do with the rest of the seat cover? It would all have to be 1" thick to look right.
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Thanks Dan!
One more question on the door panels he wants this over the top rail, I did a sample piece on closed cell foam, is this the right way? It does not look as soft but it pinches itself over the top if its to soft.
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Yes, you can do it either way, but you're right, the softer foam is not going to look as good making the curve at the top of the door panel. Look at this door panel tutorial, there may be some info in there for you that will help, especially the part with the pleats: Door panel tutorial
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Thanks Dan, you've been a huge help today! I'll get some pics up when Im done.
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