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Old 10-10-2004, 09:39 AM
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28 years ago, on the Left Coast I took a PolySci class at Palomar College taught by a prof that in that era was considered a fairly left leaning liberal Democrat(Pat Archer)....one of his favorite quotes was " When it comes to international relations,there is no right or wrong,only self preservation!" At the time, it didn't mean much to me,but as I've grown older I've come to respect his insight.
Unfortunately, the current crop of democrats are so partisen and power hungry, they blatently reject this wisdom. I just wonder if Mr. Archer is still a Democrat???? You're never too old to learn!
The Democrats aren't what they used to be. Roosevelt got us out of the depression and kicked the Nazis *, and 35 years later Carter fails to defend Iran (one of our allys at the time), gives away the Panama Canal, and other things to appease the enemy. If you give a mouse a cookie, it'll ask for a glass of milk...

And Regan (a Republican, now it's the Republicrat Party)ended (and won) the Cold War.

But personally, I'd prefer an independent party... like this guy. He should run and with enough funds to advertise and get the word out, maybe he'd win the office and get the Demoncrats, Aristocrats, Communists, Liberals, appeasers for the minority vote (Bush on legalizing illegal immigration) and flippers(hmmm... anyone with a brain knows this) out of there. He's a political talk show host and he bases both of 'em.

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Old 10-26-2004, 08:33 AM
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Right on Jon!
All this political ga-ga is enough to make the average idiot want to pencil in Mickey Mouse. I guess I kind of fall in there though, with all the rest of 'em, cause I just can't get my mind around just how this new Bush post-911 super intelligence community let 350 tons of high explosives slip through their fingers without a clue of where they went. I'm sure W. will have the answer, He's an "answer kind of a guy."
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Old 10-26-2004, 01:30 PM
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Old 10-26-2004, 03:53 PM
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Right on Jon!
All this political ga-ga is enough to make the average idiot want to pencil in Mickey Mouse. I guess I kind of fall in there though, with all the rest of 'em, cause I just can't get my mind around just how this new Bush post-911 super intelligence community let 350 tons of high explosives slip through their fingers without a clue of where they went. I'm sure W. will have the answer, He's an "answer kind of a guy."

Oops..........
By Monday night it was learned that NBC News had imbedded reporters with the 101st Airborne as they took over the facility on April 10, 2003. The conclusion of NBC, “the troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing.” The Pentagon makes the same claim.

The New York Times story failed to mention that. John Kerry has yet to mention that. In fact, they are still using the story on Tuesday afternoon as if the NBC revelation never happened.
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Old 10-29-2004, 06:39 PM
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By Monday night it was learned that NBC News had imbedded reporters with the 101st Airborne as they took over the facility on April 10, 2003. The conclusion of NBC, “the troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing.” The Pentagon makes the same claim.

Well let's see... It's Friday night now and the word (complete with pictures people and troops to back up the claim) is already out BIG TIME. It's obviously quite troubling to the Bush administration that last year's looting of the ammo dumps in question came to light this far before the election. Iraqi insurgents systematically looted the unguarded 377 ton cache of high explosives, on a nightly basis. The pentagon was notified and stated that the problem would be dealt with - it obviously wasn't, for obvious reasons. The "party concerned" was later told there simply were not enough troops to provide even minimal security at the site.
Cheney is obviously furious with the timing of this latest revelation but is still willing to try and sweep it under the rug until after the election. Although he has absolutely NO proof, He still claims the explosives were gone long before the US invasion, even when presented with these new facts. For Cheney to make this statement, in light of all this new proof of fact, leads me to believe he's either an idiot or a liar or both.

Nationally, I have a feeling I'm not alone.
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Old 10-29-2004, 06:50 PM
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I must say that I am inspired by Bush's vigor. He is definately determined.

His determination reminds me of a joke:

Overheard on a Polish airliner..."Dear passengers, we have good news and bad news...the bad news is we're lost, the good news is we're making great time."

No offense to Polish people, but this is the feeling I get.

In all fairness, we probably shouldn't know the exact plan anyways.

I also feel that changing regimes in the middle of this conflict would be a bad idea.

Yet, I don't agree with Bush on far too many points. His administration has created jobs, but who can afford to raise a family working for minimum wage at a fast food restaraunt?

I don't have a clue how Kerry will perfom, and I am scared about Edwards being in the position to run the country if something happens to Kerry.

Cheney, on the other hand is a very direct determined individual.

I still have no idea how I am going to vote.l
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Old 10-29-2004, 11:04 PM
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In all fairness, we probably shouldn't know the exact plan anyways.

I also feel that changing regimes in the middle of this conflict would be a bad idea.

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First off, we as Americans and taxpayers deserve to know which direction our leaders are headed. As far as strategic war plans go, we as civilians have never known and will never know the specific strategic deployment plans the commander in chief has in store for our troops for obvious security reasons. The problem is, under Bush, it appears we have none of the above - no strategic plan as in, sweeping serious threats such as the 377 ton explosive high-jacking under the rug then expecting the voters to believe a Bush-era draft will not happen. If it doesn't, we will run out of troops faster then we run out of money.
Bush had no entry plans going into Iraq, other then a swift victory and he had no exit plan for the same war. His small minded John Wayne style go-it-alone, kick *** and take names approach feels good and sounds good but has little affect, if any, on any real or imagined War on Terror. other then maybe the January "Kangaroo Iraqi" elections that won't happen even if he somehow Bush manages to get re-elected, he has no plan to deal with the bigger picture here.
I saw binLaden on TV tonight. That scrawny bearded ***** stated, whether Bush or Kerry get elected we won't be safe here in America and as painful as it is for me to say, I think the A-hole is right. Sitt'n on 350 tons of high test explosives that were yanked right out from under Junior's nose while he worried about tax cuts for the rich.

I think a change of regimes in the middle of THIS conflict is one hell of an idea!
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Old 10-29-2004, 11:15 PM
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I saw binLaden on TV tonight. That scrawny bearded ***** stated, whether Bush or Kerry get elected we won't be safe here in America and as painful as it is for me to say, I think the A-hole is right.


True,but Kerry will not do anything about it until the UN says he can.Great plan,let foreign countries run ours and make our decisions.Kuck Ferry.
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Old 10-31-2004, 03:47 PM
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Kerry will not do anything about it until the UN says he can.
Where did you get that from, one of Junior's campaign rants? Kerry supported getting Saddam but would have drummed up far more global support and evidence, or the lack of, WMD's then Bush did. Bush was under the mistaken impression that getting Saddam would kill two birds with one stone - save the Iraqis from themselves and settle the score between Saddam and his Pappy. He was about half right on the second one.
Bush's no-draft, go-it-alone mentality has stretched our military resourses so thin in the middle east that our troops in the region can't even adequaly guard a UN sealed catche of enemy munitions let alone, lead a full blown search for the REAL mastermind of 911, osama binLaden.

The way I figure it, binLaden would probably rather have Bush in the Whitehouse for a while longer. BinLaden and his taliban bride both know that while the stink of death stays fresh in Iraq, the flys are likely to stay away from the groom.
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I got it from him.Do you not even pay attention to what the idiot says.In every statement he makes about Iraq,he rambles on about the UN not supporting.Yep I know Bin Laden is not in Iraq,but if that needs UN supprot,so would anuthing else as far as he is concerned.Think about it.Kerry has no nuts.
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To say that terrorists want Bush in office is a joke! Kerry has groveled at the terrorists feet through this whole election! A more "sensitive" war on terror????? Makes me want to PUKE! Kerry is a TRAITOR and should have been shot for TREASON! If that Girlyman gets into office... we'll have the Blue Beret(or maybe pink), and the American Flag will be just a white flag waved by a limpwristed wimp with 3 phoney purple hearts! Kerry has a hard time deciding whether to sit or stand when he takes a leak!

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To say that terrorists want Bush in office is a joke! Kerry has groveled at the terrorists feet through this whole election! A more "sensitive" war on terror????? Makes me want to PUKE! Kerry is a TRAITOR and should have been shot for TREASON! If that Girlyman gets into office... we'll have the Blue Beret(or maybe pink), and the American Flag will be just a white flag waved by a limpwristed wimp with 3 phoney purple hearts! Kerry has a hard time deciding whether to sit or stand when he takes a leak!
All this high test rebuttal is a real hoot!

Uh huh, and Kerry's bronze star is probably phony too, NO? <chuckle> what a coinkydink... The republican swift boat guy that claimed Kerry didn't earn his bronze star got one too. He earned his in that same firefight that, according to him, never happened. I wonder if he sleeps at night knowing HIS medal is "fake" like John's?

All this "gospel truth" about either candidate has had me in stitches lately <chuckle>... So how's this for an election week indicator? The Washington Redskins lost today. For the last 17 years, when the Skin's have lost the last game before election day, the incumbent prez has been voted out and if they've won the incumbent has stayed in office.
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Think about it.Kerry has no nuts.
Well then I rekon the "Bush is what Kerry has not" slogan is true.

Bush is nuts
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All this high test rebuttal is a real hoot!
So how's this for an election week indicator? The Washington Redskins lost today. For the last 17 years, when the Skin's have lost the last game before election day, the incumbent prez has been voted out and if they've won the incumbent has stayed in office.
damn redskins. ain't ever worth a crap.

PrimeMover, where you been?
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Hiya Larry, Lately I've been busier than a one-legged man in a butt kickin' contest. The family that has been in my rental house moved out after seven years. I was glad to see them finally get a house of their own. Last couple of weeks I've been doing a low-budget remodel on the place with lots of paint, fixtures, carpet and linoleum. I've got the Delray all tore apart and for the most part, in primer. Right now it's on the back burner, in storage till I scrape up the 15 grand it will take to finish it off right.

Whoooh.. there goes the door bell man, gotta grab my Bush mask and scare a few more trick-or-treeters...

HAPPY HALLOWEEN YA'LL!!
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