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Old 05-11-2013, 12:36 PM
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........ and as far as Edelbrock quality on the carbs, I've been using them since they first came out and the only problems I've ever had was dirt once and high pump pressure on a 460 powered pickup truck. These Performer carbs are a mildly updated Cater AFB by and built by Magneti Marelli Powertrain USA - some of which have that or Weber cast on the main body - I have one of each right now.
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Gasoline that had MBTE additive affected any carb that was made out of aluminum, regardless of brand. Luckily we never had it where I live and even better yet, it has been banned as an ecological problem from the rest of the country
The gasoline additive aspect is an interesting point, and it brings E85 gasoline to mind.

Carbs, specifically rubber/viton parts (i.e. Needle/seat, acc pump) don't like alcohol.

Most PREMIUM fuels (91 octane) do not contain ethanol.
Ask your local filling station, or check this website to confirm.

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

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Old 05-11-2013, 01:05 PM
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The gasoline additive aspect is an interesting point, and it brings E85 gasoline to mind.

Carbs, specifically rubber/viton parts (i.e. Needle/seat, acc pump) don't like alcohol.

Most PREMIUM fuels (91 octane) do not contain ethanol.
Ask your local filling station, or check this website to confirm.

Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada
While I have heard that ethanol laden gas is not a good choice for fuel system, and to date have not seen nor heard personally of any motor vehicle with a problem. My Edelbrocks have both come apart, one for complete overhaul just because it was filthy dirty outside(fine inside), the other to clean the effects of an ignition/back fire problem I had . The 'rubber' parts of each were both OK after many miles.We have locally 'only' 10% and in all grades plus a few stations that sell E85. Boat owners, especially with the 2 cycle motors have had mega problems though with the 10% stuff. There are quite a few lake shore stations that sell non ethanol gas (at ~$5/gallon for 87) but for me to purchase 'pure' gasoline, I would have to take a 75 mile round trip based on that website. While my ECHO and Honda small yard equipment engines strongly suggest 100% gas, there is no way to easily comply
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Yeah ... I just checked the AB (Alberta) listings and they report only 8 locations in the entire province.

They also say that Calgary Co-op (Federated Co-operatives Ltd) is ethanol-free on 87,89,91 ... which I do not believe to be accurate.

Olds is 50 mi. north of Calgary, and, I am sure is serviced from the same bulk plant ... and I know that there is a sticker on the 87 / 89 that says "may contain ethanol", but there is no such label on the 91.

When I'm travelling, I usually buy premium from either Esso (same as Exxon in USA?) or from Shell ... with the belief that they are also ethanol-free.

Try looking for that "may contain" label at your local filling stations ... or ask.
I'm thinking that if enough people express an intrest in this, it might put a little pressure on the bulk plants to get rid of the ethanol ... at least in the premium grades.

It does look like the majority of the marine fuel distributors in NY have a clue, and are selling ethanol-free. Hard to drive up to the pump there, though!

Premium fuel here, BTW, costs about $0.10 per litre (0.38 per gal) over the cost of regular. If I'm paying premium price, I had better darn well be getting premium fuel! LOL
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Yeah ... I just checked the AB (Alberta) listings and they report only 8 locations in the entire province.

They also say that Calgary Co-op (Federated Co-operatives Ltd) is ethanol-free on 87,89,91 ... which I do not believe to be accurate.

Olds is 50 mi. north of Calgary, and, I am sure is serviced from the same bulk plant ... and I know that there is a sticker on the 87 / 89 that says "may contain ethanol", but there is no such label on the 91.

When I'm travelling, I usually buy premium from either Esso (same as Exxon in USA?) or from Shell ... with the belief that they are also ethanol-free.

Try looking for that "may contain" label at your local filling stations ... or ask.
I'm thinking that if enough people express an intrest in this, it might put a little pressure on the bulk plants to get rid of the ethanol ... at least in the premium grades.

It does look like the majority of the marine fuel distributors in NY have a clue, and are selling ethanol-free. Hard to drive up to the pump there, though!

Premium fuel here, BTW, costs about $0.10 per litre (0.38 per gal) over the cost of regular. If I'm paying premium price, I had better darn well be getting premium fuel! LOL
Now that we have totally hijacked the OPs thread I can buy ethanol free gas when I go to Penna. and watch the gas mileage on my V10 F350 jump from about 13.5 to close to 15mpg by the time I'm on my way back. As far as price, yep, 'bout the same differential here in the US. Happily my hot rod is the only vehicle we own that uses the high priced stuff and even though I built the engine to run on 89 it really doesn't like the 'cheap' stuff.

We can't change reality and return to alcohol free gas in the US. Some areas in the Midwest are already running 15% regardless of the fact economics suggest that 115,000 Btu gasoline vs 75,000 Btu 10% garbage or 60,000 Btu 15% crud wastes energy as well as money. The fact that grain stocks are way down plus those conversion plants cost big bucks to design, build and operate plus pay farm subsidies doesn't seem to deter our govenment. Probably yours either.

Time to put the soapbox away and watch some NA$CAR
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