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Old 06-07-2007, 10:28 AM
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17" Air Sander (Airfile)

I have one of the cheap Harbor Freight ones and it doesn't
do worth a (you know)
It just takes forever to remove material so I end up doing
it by hand with a long block.
Anyone here find a big difference in one of these el-cheapo's
and a descent one that may cost well over $100.00.?????
I'd like to hear your experiences. Thanks
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:44 AM
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jc,

I had the same problem with the HF unit-first one lasted about a week, then started to leak air out of the Cylinder-second one lasted about 45 minutes and did the same-
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:54 AM
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Well mines not leaking (not yet) but I was told they're known
for the air valve to rust inside and if it leaks to run some cleaner and
oil through it and that may fix it.
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:01 AM
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Thanks-the second one I forgot to return, so I will try that on both of them-
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:31 AM
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H'mm I am having some of the same issues with HF air tools..maybe there is something that can be done..

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I went through a couple of those HF air files then I bought a Hutchins, hooked up the air hose and WOW! what a difference! The Hutchins is about $179 to $200 or so depending on where you buy it but it is definitely worth it.
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And my car nut friends call me a tool sob for NOT going to HF. Ha, Thanks for reminding me why I don't go there I feel my time and projects are too valuable to be wasting time trying to fix garbage.
Thank you for letting me vent.
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:16 PM
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I also have the Hutchins and like it very much, you have speed control and have never had it stall, good tool
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:55 AM
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I use a National Detroit DA900 to knock the filler down and a
Viking inline longboard to power block. I also have a Hutchins orbital long board - but rarely used it as I like the Viking better.

Both of these tools I bought 27+ years ago - used them full time for 8 years and still use them today...both of which work great and have never been rebuilt.
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A quality tool is always a better bargain in the long run.
I've been slowly upgrading my tools, both in my wood shop and
garage. The "good" tools I have are definetly worth it.

I'd like to know how much to expect to spend to get a decent
air file. Do I have to get close to the $200.00 mark?????
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look here to see what you are dealing with http://www.nationaltoolwarehouse.com...qx/product.htm

there are other sizes, one tip the sanding boards are interchangeable, for instance I have the 11 in and needed to get into some smaller areas so i just changed the pad over to the smaller 8 in fyi. The Hutchins sanders are very nice and well worth the extra dough. A good tool just pays for itself in the long run, no getting around it. The tool has weight and the mechanical action is solid feeling when using it. Not an uncomfortable tool to us because of these factors, one does not have to apply any downward force the weight of the tool does that for you, just push it and guild it, eats body filler.
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I had a CP that I had used for years and although I only used it on a hobby level I acquired it used and it had been in a body shop for a number of years before I got it. That thing held up well however as far as sanding it really never worked any better than the HF sanders (when I could get them to work at all and IF I could keep the pads on the dang things! ) but the Hutchins is noticeably better, I mean a LOT better. The CP and similar sanders are about $100 and the Hutchins is about twice that but worth every penny.
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Thanks guys, that's kinda what I thought I would hear.
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Pepi, I just took a look at the link you provided and I noticed something that might be of interest to people with smaller compressors and that is the air consumption of that Hutchins, or rather the lack of air consumption. I am not sure as to how much (actual) CFM the HF or even the CP sanders need but I am sure it is is a lot more than the 6.2 @90 PSI of the Hutchins. I would not be at all surprised to find that the other sanders, especially the HFs, I have owned require at least 10 CFM at the same pressure and quite likely even more maybe nearly twice as much. I have a fairly large compressor so I did'nt pay much attention to it before but now that I think about it those things did seem to use nearly as much air as my DA which is a real air hog. If a person uses his air file a lot then power savings and the wear and tear alone on his compressor would be worth the extra cost and if the compressor won't keep up with a HF type sander then it would be like having a bigger compressor.
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Pepi, I just took a look at the link you provided and I noticed something that might be of interest to people with smaller compressors and that is the air consumption of that Hutchins, or rather the lack of air consumption. I am not sure as to how much (actual) CFM the HF or even the CP sanders need but I am sure it is is a lot more than the 6.2 @90 PSI of the Hutchins. I would not be at all surprised to find that the other sanders, especially the HFs, I have owned require at least 10 CFM at the same pressure and quite likely even more maybe nearly twice as much. I have a fairly large compressor so I did'nt pay much attention to it before but now that I think about it those things did seem to use nearly as much air as my DA which is a real air hog. If a person uses his air file a lot then power savings and the wear and tear alone on his compressor would be worth the extra cost and if the compressor won't keep up with a HF type sander then it would be like having a bigger compressor.
Oldred - your're as wise as always!

Not only does a higher end tool usually use less CFM - they are generally much quieter too.

I did buy a cheap HF 6" DA (I call them DA even though they're not) and it eats a lot of air and is really noisy. But I just don't do this stuff enough to step up on a DA and a DA always seems to get more abuse anyway and need repairs or replacement.
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