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Old 03-08-2013, 12:12 PM
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1931 Model A serial number

HI, I'm new to this forum and just bought a 31 model A from a guy in florida. Drove it home to NC and went to get the title changed to my name and in my state. They(NC license dept) said i have to take the car to the DMV and have the serial number verified etc. The car has a metal tag on the firewall with a number that is on the current title. The inspector said i have to show him the number on the frame if their is one still there because thats the original number. If there is not one there anymore due to rust he will give me a new number but he must see for himself. My question is- where exactly is the number? I have tried to research this and some say, all i have to do is remove the left front fender and look on top of the frame rail. Some say i have to lift the body off and it's right behind the first body bolt on top of the left rail. If it is under the body, i want to lift the body up just high enough for him to look with a mirror. I'm trying not to tear the whole car apart if i don't need to. Any help is appreciated.
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hi, it is on top of the frame and the body sits over it. If i remember. So others will chime in and correct me if i am wrong.
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Your right Killeratrod I was lucky the guy that checked mine just checked the number on the title with the number on the block.
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Where you located in N.C.
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serial number

Had the same problem with our model T...DMV issued us a number and now instead of having a 1919 Model T, we have a 2009 assembled Model T. Serial number was on top rail of frame where they couldn't see it. Good old DMV!
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I hate that for ya'll I don't see why they can't work something like that out for people.
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i have a 27 titled as a 27 t. Had a plate made for it and rivited to the front frame rail. Went through DMV in Floriada.
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I hear you man did you have to pull your frame.
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Gotta love those DMV's. In Indiana, I have a fiberglass 27T roadster with a homemade frame. They titled it as a 1927 model T. 85 years old. Model: roadster, Style: coupe! I tried to explain that it wasn't a coupe, and only got blank stares. Finally told them I didn't care what they called it. Just give me my plate. It seems most DMV's are totally in the dark.
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I wonder what test you have to FAIL to get a job at the DMV
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No i did not pull the frame it is an open motor car. Frame rail is right their. Had a tag stamped with the vin number and put it where it can be seen. My title was from florida to start off. A buddy in GA did the same thing as me and his went right through and got a 29 titled as a 29. If you can not get it title as the year it is this may hurt the resale value.
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I have an A roadster, an extra A frame and a T bucket on an A frame. the Id number is on the left frame rail just to the rear of the front body mount hole. It is covered by the body, the body has to be removed to see the number. model T's thru 40's use the Engine number for registration and titles, and if you changed an engine most states required you to redo your title. I got a notice that someone was trying to use the vin on my roadster, They had found my original 4 banger and had rebuildt the engine and wanted to use that engine number for the vin. I agreed to let them use that engine number and will have a new Vin asigned since I have a V 8 in the roadster
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Thanks for the info fellas. Yes my engine has been replaced, it's not original. It looks like i'm in for a body lift because he wants to see the number even though the car came from Florida with a serial number plate on the firewall. Oh well, thanks again for the help. Great forum, i'm looking forward to more info about 31's.
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In some states the vin inspection can be done by the dmv office, a law officer or even a AAA office. sometimes it's easier to go to another office than pull the body. When I had the 37 pontiac inspected by the DMV lady in California, it was up on the trailer, I brought a small step stool and a towel to lay over the fender for her to Kneel on to inspect the frame and engine number. She was very nice to me, signed all the papers.
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