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Old 10-30-2008, 05:19 PM
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1941 plymouth sedan deluxe

I have a 1941 plymouth sedan deluxe 2dr. I am looking at front end alternatives.
The Mustang 2 is a little pricey. Someone had told me a dodge diplomat front would fit. Does anyone else know of any modern fronts that wouldnt require absolutely changing the car completely. I just want it modernized with new steering, and a new front end suspension and brakes. I have an Ls1 to put in. I am currently pulling the body off of the car for resto. I have no concerns whatsoever with changing the frame. I am looking for floorboards that would be a match. I had heard the pinto and chevy blazer was close.

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I have a 1941 plymouth sedan deluxe 2dr. I am looking at front end alternatives.
The Mustang 2 is a little pricey.
Buy a pinto... heck there was an auction around here where they couldn't give a pinto away just take it home! and it has a mustang 2 front end in it for the taking! I think that is cheap!

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Someone had told me a dodge diplomat front would fit.
with torches, anything can fit. a diplomat or volare just allows for ride hight adjustability with the torsion spring front end.

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Does anyone else know of any modern fronts that wouldn't require absolutely changing the car completely. I just want it modernized with new steering, and a new front end suspension and brakes. I have an Ls1 to put in. I am currently pulling the body off of the car for resto. I have no concerns whatsoever with changing the frame.
"I want to put in modern stuff in a non common and not generally sought after car that there is not really an aftermarket source for parts but not change it completely??" is this an oxymoron? How about sub-framing? 78-81 olds cutlass or chevy malibu will line up well... the car is cheap, and it is an easy chop that lines up.

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I am looking for floorboards that would be a match. I had heard the pinto and chevy blazer was close.
Well, the pinto is a unibody... so probably not a great fit, but okay... the blazer... a vehicle that sits on top of a frame... closer, but these both have foot wells....

A 1941 ply. sat on top of the frame and the floor pans were relatively flat with a small hump in the center for the drive-shaft... it's easier to get the roof of a full size van and make it your floor pans... you can get these cheap from any "conversion van" shop that raises roofs, it already has ribs in it, and the center hump can be easily made. The foot wells didn't come in to play until 1948/49 really when Hudson (or tucker) allowed people to "step down into the car" and needed to make room for feet.

I hope this gives you ideas.

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I did a '41 Chevy coupe for my mail carrier a few years back. Your Plymouth is not so different. Our remedy was to buy a clapped out Nova. We unbolted the front subframe (it had disc brakes), cut the old frame near the firewall and grafted it on very neatly. You have all the nice ride and great brakes. Are you using a Mopar engine? If so, you would have to make motor mounts and use a truck oil pan and pickup. This has all been done many, many times so it is not as radical as it sounds. I never use Aspen/Volare/Diplomat fronts. They are heavy and very ugly! The earlier k-member suspensions are nice but the torsion bars are often in the way of headers, etc. but you could very easily convert to coil overs. I still like the Pinto/Mustang II deal. Like one person said, buy a whole car cheap and not the expensive "kits". I cut the suspension saddle out of them and fit it to the existing chassis. You don't have to fight geometry, it is very light and you get rack & pinion. Speedway Motors sells 5-lug rotors at a great price. Good luck with that rare car.
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Thanks for your help

Joe,
I was looking at something more affordable than what the plymouth doctor had. Its a little pricey. I have the Autocad software. I will draw up some floowpans I guess. I would rather pay 40$ in sheet metal rather than 1100 for someone elses precuts. I was just looking at the least consumption with my time thats all. I looked on Rustyhope.com
I talked to charlie Akers about the conversion kit he had to discs. My front needs a complete rebuild Steering too. I was just looking for the most cost efficient alternative.
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