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1941 Willys Coupe Pro Street

New to this forum and I am sensitive to stepping on toes. Contemplating buying a Willys Pro Street kit and I would like to know any experiences relative to Outlaw and Fast Time Rod packages.

Thx in advance for your advice.

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Marv are you from western Kentucky.If so call Jerry at A+.I personally like the Out Law. A little heavier built. But more expensive
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This guy is a member here. Home Though I have never seen one in person, it looks like a good product and the guy seems nice enough.

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I live in Bowie Maryland just east of Washington, D.C. And west off Annapolis Maryland
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This guy is a member here. Home Though I have never seen one in person, it looks like a good product and the guy seems nice enough.

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Brian, the link did not work. Please repost.

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Brian, the link did not work. Please repost.

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It works for me.

Here is the URLhttp://www.scottrods custom.com/index.html I put a gap between the scottrods and the custom so it wouldn't post as "Home". Try copy and pasting with the space removed? Or google Scotts rods and custom http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient...w=1332&bih=633

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It works for me.

Here is the URLhttp://www.scottrods custom.com/index.html I put a gap between the scottrods and the custom so it wouldn't post as "Home". Try copy and pasting with the space removed? Or google Scotts rods and custom Google

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Brian,
Thx for the repost, I accessed the website
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First,welcome! I'm kinda new here to...Outlaw has been around for a long time,I've had 3 '41 Willys,my son hauled some for Outlaw,and I've been there a few times,Great bodies,when they first came out,(in the 80s I think) alot of guys didn't even paint them,they were so nice.I highly recomend them.
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I have an A&C Antique and Collectable "plastic " Willys. They have an excellent body and very good customer service. Call them and ask for Sonny.

I bought a bare prostreet frame and body from them and built the entire car from there myself.

Blown sbc. You can see me driving in the rain above.

It's very specific a streetrod capable of 3 season driving and I have actually driven it in the winter. Not recommended however as the salt stuff is very hard to wash off. The big Hoosiers are excellent inthe rain by very poor in the snow.

I would strongly recommend you start an Excel spreadsheet and plan out known purchases. Select where you are going to purchase parts, select suppliers, prices, comments on service. I would not recommend buying much at swap meets unless you can get very good documentation.

At the very start go to the DMV and get familar with you states title laws. Talk to others who have titled in your state.

Above all keep receipts for everything. Get full names, addresses, description of the parts, any casting and part number enscribed on the item. especially the motor, trans, rear end, if you use a doner car be sure you have a title to it so you can use this info in the title process. If you don't have good documentation the DMV can simply stop your title. Do plan on being nice to some people who do not deserve to be nice to. Remember they have the "big stick". haha

Plan on some serious expense when the tilte time comes. You may have to come up with state taxes on the parts you bought out of state or anything you have not paid state taxes on. 7% of $40,000 in parts is $2800 you will need in cash at title time, for example. Many states have a 'bond rule" which means you have to post a 3 yr bond for a value that the state assigns to you car. These cost About $65 pre $1000 +/- some. Usually these are assesed at 1 1/2 times the value of the car. So when time comes for this don't ever brag about how much your car costs.

I could write a thick book on what I went thru to get a state title on my car but in the end it was worth it. I can jump in the car and go for a ride when ever I feel like it with no restriction (parades and shows only or other nonsense).

I cruise several times a week with over 150 guys and we go a couple hundred miles a day all summer long and it is really a good time riding the back roads.

One last thing don't ever get caught doing a burn out or other exihbishtionistic driving on the street with a streetrod. You will probably lose it for good.

There are a couple other Willys guys here so we can help you a little. Come to Back to the 50's in Minnesota. There are usually about 20-30 of us freaks there.

Good luck
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I have an A&C Antique and Collectable "plastic " Willys. They have an excellent body and very good customer service. Call them and ask for Sonny.

I bought a bare prostreet frame and body from them and built the entire car from there myself.

Blown sbc. You can see me driving in the rain above.

It's very specific a streetrod capable of 3 season driving and I have actually driven it in the winter. Not recommended however as the salt stuff is very hard to wash off. The big Hoosiers are excellent inthe rain by very poor in the snow.

I would strongly recommend you start an Excel spreadsheet and plan out known purchases. Select where you are going to purchase parts, select suppliers, prices, comments on service. I would not recommend buying much at swap meets unless you can get very good documentation.

At the very start go to the DMV and get familar with you states title laws. Talk to others who have titled in your state.

Above all keep receipts for everything. Get full names, addresses, description of the parts, any casting and part number enscribed on the item. especially the motor, trans, rear end, if you use a doner car be sure you have a title to it so you can use this info in the title process. If you don't have good documentation the DMV can simply stop your title. Do plan on being nice to some people who do not deserve to be nice to. Remember they have the "big stick". haha

Plan on some serious expense when the tilte time comes. You may have to come up with state taxes on the parts you bought out of state or anything you have not paid state taxes on. 7% of $40,000 in parts is $2800 you will need in cash at title time, for example. Many states have a 'bond rule" which means you have to post a 3 yr bond for a value that the state assigns to you car. These cost About $65 pre $1000 +/- some. Usually these are assesed at 1 1/2 times the value of the car. So when time comes for this don't ever brag about how much your car costs.

I could write a thick book on what I went thru to get a state title on my car but in the end it was worth it. I can jump in the car and go for a ride when ever I feel like it with no restriction (parades and shows only or other nonsense).

I cruise several times a week with over 150 guys and we go a couple hundred miles a day all summer long and it is really a good time riding the back roads.

One last thing don't ever get caught doing a burn out or other exihbishtionistic driving on the street with a streetrod. You will probably lose it for good.

There are a couple other Willys guys here so we can help you a little. Come to Back to the 50's in Minnesota. There are usually about 20-30 of us freaks there.

Good luck
Would like to chat with you over the phone when time permits...I have begun my build process and have some questions for you.

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Used to live in bowie by melvin motors. Maryland is not easy when it comes ot titles. You may want to look at something that is already titled. they can bee a real pita to get through inspection and first title. Got any family out of state might be easier to title in another state and bring into md. most kit cars guys have a tough time getting things though md state. One thing people do to get around this is by a car or truck and use that title as the chassis title. Still registered as a kit car but you can get it with historic tags and by pass a lot of the heart ache they put you through. It will have to pass md inspection to be titled as a new kit car in md. That is no easy feat if you lived in md for a while you have had some fun with there inspection process. With a truck chassis you can just say you used it as a foundation and may get by with an easier title process. Some state are much easier.

Other state let you title the car as the model year the kit appears to be. This can solve all kinds of problems like safety equipment and emissions. MD is no fun for kit builders.

Half built projects happen many people put too much in and cant finish the kit but usually make a good start with the right parts. But in the end get overwhelmed with cost. they normally sell these partially built projects at a good discount. Would be a good idea to look around and see if you find one local.

I used to have a friend there had an all steel whillys used to run around town.

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Minn has improved its " kit car" title since I titled mine. It took me 8 months and piles of receipts plus I had to post a bond for 3 years. Now the bond is a given and you need receipts but the inspection is better managed. I titled my car as a real state title rather than a collector or streetrods title. Those both have restrictions of usage, shows parades etc. My state title makes it easier to sell out of state should I decide to sell. Additionally I can drive anytime anywhere the same as I can with any other vehicle.

Before you start a project car be sure you know your title process. A Vin number is required so if your car doesn't have one and was built before Vin numbers were required you have to go through the process to create one. Each state has something to do this but it may be very difficult and costly. Check it out.
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I now live in NC and they are much easier to deal with. They just want to look at it and make sure its safe for road use. Very simple things needed to get a title for a custom build. Nothing like MD. They need pictures and a exam by the license and thief bureau not bad compared to md. There inspection is nothing like md if you got brakes and lights your good. MD can get crazy. Also no emissions where i live now. long as its not open headers your good to go in nc the area i live in anyway.


Amazed at how much trouble you had bentwings. Glad to hear you got it sorted.

In md I have used historic and street rod tags for years and drove every day. every so often a cop would ask about it but the law allows a pleasure cruise so its kind of vague on if its actually illegal mostly the cops just wanted to look at the car. Also makes a big difference on insurance in md that is a major concern for a 50-100K dollar car. good chance of something happening so you got to get good insurance and cost can skyrocket on agreed value in md without it being tagged historic. With the roads and the way people drive around there you got to be ready for someone to smash it and walk away a head of the game or at least not be out your entire car.

Something important to look at is md requires cats and if you dont have them it doesn't pass inspection. Some inspection station will over look it but most inspectors check every box these days as the fines are 25K and up. If you have a catalytic converter looking exhaust you may get a pass and not have to deal with it until it comes time for emissions but it will happen pretty fast. either way something you may want to consider. Probably best to go with a stock ls engine and efi system. That way you got a system that will pass. But you may need a system that will pass 2016 standards. Not 2006 or what ever the engine comes from. May work with odbII systems test but a lot to go over as the emissions station may want to see proper stickers and other emissions equipment.
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Minn found out years ago that emission testing was a huge expense that was unnecessary. Even yearly inspections became a burden to the state. The revenue gain vs. cost of administration simply was over welhming. The few cars that were out of limits did little harm so why bother. Pre 1985 cars are almost extinct on our roads today except for streetrods.

We have strick seat belt laws that allow stops. So no seat belt gets a ticket and a vehicle check over and a potential ticket for improper registration. If you were observed doing a burnout for example, you might get a citation for exhibionistic driving, careless driving, reckless driving, public nuisance, speeding, crossing a traffic lane, illegal marking of the street, no signal, loud mufflers, no fenders ( hotrod ), no bumpers, no wipers, restricted vision ( dice hanging from mirror), improper registration, and no seat belts. Maybe other things too. If you were really unlucky the car could be permanently impounded. So it pays to drive hotrods sanely.
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In md its not how you drive its how the person next to you drives is the problem and the shear number of people on the road and half of them dont have insurance not that a 25K dollar policy will cover the cost of a purpose built street rod. The roads them selves arent to forgiving either. First time i drove my svo to dc i hit a pot hole and ripped the torque box out of the car. Then there is theft, car jacking and a bunch of other problems that leads to the need for heavy insurance on expensive cars.

In md it used to be unlawful display of power. Turns out too many people were framing that one and hanging it on the wall. So now its reckless driving a very expensive ticket and lots of points.

MD has one of the toughest inspections but you only got to go thru it once. then your good for the life of the car. emissions every two years.
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