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Old 01-18-2014, 09:59 PM
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1946/47/48 Plymouths

I've had a 47 Plymouth coupe for about 6 months now and have been searching for ideas to modify the grill and headlight areas. I know a lot of people are fine with the way they came from the factory, but mine is missing the center sheet metal support for the grill and all the trim that goes with it. It's going to need some work on the fenders also, so I've been kicking around the idea of building my own grill and modifying the headlight area.
I think these old Plymouths can be made into really neat street rods if done right. I would like to lower the suspension also by either installing a s10 clip or a Mustang II suspension under it.
If anyone has any ideas or pictures please join in on this thread and post your thoughts and pictures. It don't matter if it is a coupe, a tudor, or a four door
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Hi, Go on over to Auto Hobby Page - 17 Years Online - 240,000+ Car Pics - Specs - Events - Forum - HotRods - Classics click on 'car pics gallery' . You will be directed to a page with all kinds of cars listed, find & click 'Plymouth', there you'll find what pics they have, according to year. Also check out other makes of the same vintage, you might find LOTS of ideas. On a personal note, please AVOID ANYTHING WITH SQUARE LIGHTS!!. I've seen some of those that people have done, and in MY personal opinion, square lights just DON'T belong on old round fat fender cars!!! Happy Hunting! Rick
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Theres also this site that was very helpful to me...Forum for P15-D24.com & Pilot-house.com
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Stop teasing us and post more pics...side view, rear view ,inside ,truck, motor etc,,,,,lets have a good look...
Heres mine....
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Thanks for posting the pics. I know you must already have a lot of time in your project. It takes a lot of determination to tackle a car that needs a lot of work. Mine will need a lot of work also. I just hope I can stick with it to the end.
I've think I've probably looked at every Plymouth or Morpar forum on the web looking for ideas and found some nice cars, but most of them were built more as resto rods. I have looked at every 46,47,and 48 Plymouth pic on carnut.com at least 4 or five times.
I would like to generate enough interest with this thread that anyone that has one of these cars will post something. Even if it is restoring a family sedan.
We never know what's hiding out there in everyone's shop or backyard!
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It's a 41 Chrysler but they are very similar looking.

It's a big project to modify lights and grills.
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It looks like you've about got it figured out though! It looks like it's being turned into a Willis, but the first pic has got me puzzled. Thanks for posting them!
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It looks like you've about got it figured out though! It looks like it's being turned into a Willis, but the first pic has got me puzzled. Thanks for posting them!
Ha. The first pic is before primer.
Ya, it's working out to look kind of like a Willys.
The headlights are Ford.

I'm the same as you and figure these Mopars could use a bit of a facelift.
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I just got thru reading your project journal and it is truly amazing! You must have thousands of hours in fabricating and metal finish work!
You are doing a great job on that car and are very talented.
I would like to do a lot of custom work on mine, but I don't think I would ever be able to take any project as far as you have yours. I hope to retire at the end of this year and will have a lot more time on my hands for projects. I would be happy just to make a decent looking driver out of mine. LOL!
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Well, if you're retiring, you'll have lots of time available.
I don't think mine will be done until I retire.
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The first thing you want to do is get it running then drivable...its a lot easier when you can pull it in and out of the shop...
I did an 80 Camaro subframe because I had all the parts. dropped in a mild 350 and a new tranny, got rid of the heavy steering box and mounted a rack, then tossed the little 11" rotors and used 12" rotors,spindles and control arms from a 95 Impala ,then tossed the springs and bagged it...then an 89 Camaro rear end ,ladder bars and bags...Nothing special ,easy to find parts from the salvage yards...
I did almost all of it in my driveway...It was at my shop but I got tired of everyone asking why did I buy this thig and why am I working on it and wasting my time....and the classic you'll never get that junk running...so I brought it home saying the next time you see it I'll not only have it running but I'll be driving it into the shop...Man you should have been there I got it to the shop on a roll back and fired it up in the parking lot ,MAN was it rough ,rattles ,open headers and the body just hanging on with the only two rear mounts left that wernt rotted out years ago. It was pretty scary even at 5mph........BUT I DID DRIVE IT IN....all of a sudden everyone was talkin about how cool it was and I never touched the body all I did was get it running and it wasn't running well it just ran...
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The first thing you want to do is get it running then drivable...its a lot easier when you can pull it in and out of the shop...
I did an 80 Camaro subframe because I had all the parts. dropped in a mild 350 and a new tranny, got rid of the heavy steering box and mounted a rack, then tossed the little 11" rotors and used 12" rotors,spindles and control arms from a 95 Impala ,then tossed the springs and bagged it...then an 89 Camaro rear end ,ladder bars and bags...Nothing special ,easy to find parts from the salvage yards...
I did almost all of it in my driveway...It was at my shop but I got tired of everyone asking why did I buy this thig and why am I working on it and wasting my time....and the classic you'll never get that junk running...so I brought it home saying the next time you see it I'll not only have it running but I'll be driving it into the shop...Man you should have been there I got it to the shop on a roll back and fired it up in the parking lot ,MAN was it rough ,rattles ,open headers and the body just hanging on with the only two rear mounts left that wernt rotted out years ago. It was pretty scary even at 5mph........BUT I DID DRIVE IT IN....all of a sudden everyone was talkin about how cool it was and I never touched the body all I did was get it running and it wasn't running well it just ran...
Now if you really want to impress people...GET BACK TO WORK ON IT.....

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If you want to go "classic custom"... how about a tube grill, but peaked in the middle to match the body... and some tunneled headlights?

If you try to make it look like another model, it may come off as a cheap imitation, so I would celebrate the "look" of the Plymouth... but customized.

For artwork... how about a road runner... but much older. Maybe with a beard and cane?
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The first thing you want to do is get it running then drivable...its a lot easier when you can pull it in and out of the shop...
I did an 80 Camaro subframe because I had all the parts. dropped in a mild 350 and a new tranny, got rid of the heavy steering box and mounted a rack, then tossed the little 11" rotors and used 12" rotors,spindles and control arms from a 95 Impala ,then tossed the springs and bagged it...then an 89 Camaro rear end ,ladder bars and bags...Nothing special ,easy to find parts from the salvage yards...
I did almost all of it in my driveway...It was at my shop but I got tired of everyone asking why did I buy this thig and why am I working on it and wasting my time....and the classic you'll never get that junk running...so I brought it home saying the next time you see it I'll not only have it running but I'll be driving it into the shop...Man you should have been there I got it to the shop on a roll back and fired it up in the parking lot ,MAN was it rough ,rattles ,open headers and the body just hanging on with the only two rear mounts left that wernt rotted out years ago. It was pretty scary even at 5mph........BUT I DID DRIVE IT IN....all of a sudden everyone was talkin about how cool it was and I never touched the body all I did was get it running and it wasn't running well it just ran...

I've already got a 4.3 V6 and a 4l60e that I salvaged from a 93 s10 blazer, I was thinking of using either the s10 frame or clip for the suspension, but I have a complete Mustang II suspension from another salvaged car that I've decided to use instead. I just need to get started soon on the cross member for it.
It was kind'a my plan to get the running part out of the way, then start the body mods. I wanted to get some ideas for the body mods before I spent a lot of time on the other stuff just to decide it couldn't be made into a cool looking car. You and Pugsy have already got me looking in the right direction. Thanks!
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If you want to go "classic custom"... how about a tube grill, but peaked in the middle to match the body... and some tunneled headlights?

If you try to make it look like another model, it may come off as a cheap imitation, so I would celebrate the "look" of the Plymouth... but customized.

For artwork... how about a road runner... but much older. Maybe with a beard and cane?
I think a tube grill would be the way to go. Nice and simple mod and it would improve the looks of the grill a lot I think. I've been searching for pics on the internet of one that someone has already done, but have found very few that are done right.
When you say "tunneled headlights" are you talking about frenching them or is that a completely different term. I've seen a lot of pics with frenched headlights and that's not the look I really want for the car. Thanks for posting
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