1949 ford f1 from 6cy to V8 cost???
I have a original manual 3sp with a 6cy in line engine.
Would like to go to Automatic and maybe a 302 Engine ?
Any idea or a real good guess how much would cost If I take to a good mechanic
Just need to know if will be worth the work
Sugestions on the engine and trans??
thank you much
I do have pics of the truck on the gallery
thank you all
I did a V8 302 and auto trans from a 70 mustang swaped into a 1946 Ford Pickup some years back. With all the swap mounts and conversion mounts on the market it would cost far less to do the work yourself.You will more than likely want to upgarde the rearend, and change the front brakes to disc and add power also. The labor rate around here for a mechanic is about $65-85 a hour, and they will include the time they spend searching for parts at that labor rate more than likely. Some one else may chime in that has more experiance in the swaps than i do, but to have someone do it, its not going to be cheap.
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I did my swap for about $800 or $900 including the used engine & trans. that I got from my buddy.
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There are too many variables that rely on your trucks current configuration and your personal preferences to give a specific price.
Besides the obvious, engine and transmission crossmembers, which can be purchased at any number of supply houses, here are some of the things you need to take into consideration.
Is your truck currently a 12V system or 6 volt, a 12 volt starter and alternator, distributer and coil is what comes with a 302...
You may have some rewiring to do, if your truck has it's stock wiring...the old cloth covered stuff doesn't get you very far in a swap like that. Gauges will need to have the 49 sending units used, if you do a 6 volt convertor to run them.
Fuel line may need to be relocated. Sometimes the old line just needs to be replaced from the tank forward.
At the very least, a rod from your shifter lever on the column to the lever on the transmission will need to be fabricated. (was that one a column shift? or a 3 speed on the floor? # speed on the floor will require a shifter of some kind.)
A parking brake may need to be sorted out, some of the trucks had parking brakes on the back of the transmission, that won't adapt to an automatic.
Radiator ...6 cylinder radiator won't always be enough radiator for the v 8. Outlets/inlets may be in the wrong place.
Driveshaft, new yoke and shorten, at the very least.
The old rear end may need a look as well, to see if it is up to the task. (did those years have an enclosed driveline?)
Where will you get the engine and trans? A crate motor and transmission bought outright will require all of the accessory drives, dipsticks, carb. ignition, etc...while a motor and trans from a crashed car has all of that stuff already. (a motor from a car with EFI will present some more wiring, as well as fuel system, fuel tank and pump issues)
I usually allow 6-8 hours for draining fluids and pulling the old motor and trans, linkages, exhaust, etc and cleaning up the frame to accept the new mounts. IIRC, those old F1' s have a big riveted in trans mount/crossmember that the brake and clutch pedals and brake master cylinder partially depend on.
(don't forget that all of the old parts are going to need to be dealt with after the extraction..it requires shop time to take the stuff away)
If the motor and trans are all there, and allow about another 6- 8 hours for setting the new motor in the engine compartment, getting it lined up and level, centered and making sure that things like exhaust manifolds will clear steering boxes and cooling fans will fit behind the radiator...(not usually an issue with a 6 cyl to V8 swap),
trimming and installing mounts.
Then the rest comes in.. That gets billed at time and materials.
Is it worth it?
Yes. Unless you like the experience of driving the quaint antique character of a peice of last centuries technology.
Upgrading to a small v8 from the old 6 will make a world of difference in the pleasure you get from driving your truck.
Can you afford to take it to a shop and have someone else do all the labor?
Only you can decide that after discussing the project with your chosen professional.
Many times I have done the heavy work, R&R 'ing the motor and dealing with the mounts and fab work, then given the car/truck back to the customer to do the rest at his own pace and skill level, or contract others to do portions of the work as time and funds allow.
I just talked to a young guy who I did a 400/C6 swap into a 54 ford pickup like that...it took him about a year, but he learned as he went, doing all of the wiring, plumbing etc himself, now he is driving the truck and having a blast.
Hope this helps.
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Last edited by powerrodsmike; 04-12-2008 at 10:46 AM.
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