1949 ford f1 from 6cy to V8 cost??? - Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board
Hotrodders.com -- Hot Rod Forum



Register FAQ Search Today's Posts Unanswered Posts Auto Escrow Insurance Auto Loans
Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board > Tech Help> Hotrodding Basics
User Name
Password
lost password?   |   register now

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 09:23 AM
Registered User
 
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 24
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
1949 ford f1 from 6cy to V8 cost???

I have a original manual 3sp with a 6cy in line engine.

Would like to go to Automatic and maybe a 302 Engine ?

Any idea or a real good guess how much would cost If I take to a good mechanic

Just need to know if will be worth the work

thank you
Sugestions on the engine and trans??
thank you much
I do have pics of the truck on the gallery

thank you all

    Advertisement
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 04-03-2008, 11:02 AM
DRS50's Avatar
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: Frame Progress
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Oklahoma
Age: 58
Posts: 202
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
I did a V8 302 and auto trans from a 70 mustang swaped into a 1946 Ford Pickup some years back. With all the swap mounts and conversion mounts on the market it would cost far less to do the work yourself.You will more than likely want to upgarde the rearend, and change the front brakes to disc and add power also. The labor rate around here for a mechanic is about $65-85 a hour, and they will include the time they spend searching for parts at that labor rate more than likely. Some one else may chime in that has more experiance in the swaps than i do, but to have someone do it, its not going to be cheap.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 04-11-2008, 08:11 PM
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: `63 fairlane
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mason City, Iowa
Posts: 34
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by drsergio
I have a original manual 3sp with a 6cy in line engine.

Would like to go to Automatic and maybe a 302 Engine ?

Any idea or a real good guess how much would cost If I take to a good mechanic

Just need to know if will be worth the work

thank you
Sugestions on the engine and trans??
thank you much
I do have pics of the truck on the gallery

thank you all
I,also, did one of these swaps. It was in a `52 F1 pu. You should contact:
Chassis Engineering
West Branch, Iowa
1-319-643-2645
chassisengineeringinc.com

These guys are very helpful and have years of experience.
I did my swap for about $800 or $900 including the used engine & trans. that I got from my buddy.

Good luck!!!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 05:27 AM
F&J F&J is offline
Registered User
 

Last journal entry: 32 Ford cabriolet conversion/windshield
Last photo:
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Connecticut
Age: 62
Posts: 1,571
Wiki Edits: 0

Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
PM me when you get serious
* ** ** ********* ** *** * **** * *** ****

Last edited by Henry Highrise; 04-12-2008 at 11:46 AM. Reason: Advertising. Please see: commercial posting guidelines.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 04-12-2008, 09:41 AM
powerrodsmike's Avatar
Hotrodders.com Moderator
 
Last wiki edit: Make a fiberglass fan shroud
Last journal entry: Next.. ..Bagging the king B (barge)
Last photo:
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: gilroy, california
Age: 53
Posts: 4,108
Wiki Edits: 161

Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
There are too many variables that rely on your trucks current configuration and your personal preferences to give a specific price.

Besides the obvious, engine and transmission crossmembers, which can be purchased at any number of supply houses, here are some of the things you need to take into consideration.

Is your truck currently a 12V system or 6 volt, a 12 volt starter and alternator, distributer and coil is what comes with a 302...
You may have some rewiring to do, if your truck has it's stock wiring...the old cloth covered stuff doesn't get you very far in a swap like that. Gauges will need to have the 49 sending units used, if you do a 6 volt convertor to run them.

Fuel line may need to be relocated. Sometimes the old line just needs to be replaced from the tank forward.

At the very least, a rod from your shifter lever on the column to the lever on the transmission will need to be fabricated. (was that one a column shift? or a 3 speed on the floor? # speed on the floor will require a shifter of some kind.)

A parking brake may need to be sorted out, some of the trucks had parking brakes on the back of the transmission, that won't adapt to an automatic.

Radiator ...6 cylinder radiator won't always be enough radiator for the v 8. Outlets/inlets may be in the wrong place.

Driveshaft, new yoke and shorten, at the very least.

The old rear end may need a look as well, to see if it is up to the task. (did those years have an enclosed driveline?)

Carburator linkage.

Where will you get the engine and trans? A crate motor and transmission bought outright will require all of the accessory drives, dipsticks, carb. ignition, etc...while a motor and trans from a crashed car has all of that stuff already. (a motor from a car with EFI will present some more wiring, as well as fuel system, fuel tank and pump issues)


I usually allow 6-8 hours for draining fluids and pulling the old motor and trans, linkages, exhaust, etc and cleaning up the frame to accept the new mounts. IIRC, those old F1' s have a big riveted in trans mount/crossmember that the brake and clutch pedals and brake master cylinder partially depend on.
(don't forget that all of the old parts are going to need to be dealt with after the extraction..it requires shop time to take the stuff away)

If the motor and trans are all there, and allow about another 6- 8 hours for setting the new motor in the engine compartment, getting it lined up and level, centered and making sure that things like exhaust manifolds will clear steering boxes and cooling fans will fit behind the radiator...(not usually an issue with a 6 cyl to V8 swap),
trimming and installing mounts.


Then the rest comes in.. That gets billed at time and materials.


Is it worth it?


Yes. Unless you like the experience of driving the quaint antique character of a peice of last centuries technology.

Upgrading to a small v8 from the old 6 will make a world of difference in the pleasure you get from driving your truck.

Can you afford to take it to a shop and have someone else do all the labor?
Only you can decide that after discussing the project with your chosen professional.

Many times I have done the heavy work, R&R 'ing the motor and dealing with the mounts and fab work, then given the car/truck back to the customer to do the rest at his own pace and skill level, or contract others to do portions of the work as time and funds allow.

I just talked to a young guy who I did a 400/C6 swap into a 54 ford pickup like that...it took him about a year, but he learned as he went, doing all of the wiring, plumbing etc himself, now he is driving the truck and having a blast.


Hope this helps.

Mikey
__________________
my signature lines...not really directed at anyone in particular..

BE different....ACT normal.

No one is completely useless..They can always be used as a bad example

Last edited by powerrodsmike; 04-12-2008 at 09:46 AM.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

Recent Hotrodding Basics posts with photos

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Hot Rod Forum : Hotrodders Bulletin Board forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name (usually not your first and last name), your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
List all of your cars HERE! Carbed95GT Hotrodders' Lounge 289 11-09-2011 06:43 PM
Ford Ranger V8 Conversion izzymiddleton Hotrodders' Lounge 13 11-14-2005 11:23 PM
Ford Ranger 4X4 V8 nightrain_rod Hotrodders' Lounge 5 04-25-2003 02:29 AM
Whatever happend to these guys? hot_rod_kid Hotrodders' Lounge 20 12-17-2002 09:20 AM
1962 Ford Van. Make it a V8 or leave it a 6? The-Profezzor Hotrodders' Lounge 4 11-03-2002 09:58 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2
Copyright Hotrodders.com 1999 - 2012. All Rights Reserved.