well i got the lifters out and cleaned , found a 2ouple that were soft ,,and found 1 w or so with sludge but all clean , got the rocker assemble off and cleaned the tube was bad dirty even got some stuff out ,, here is some pics ,, i am going back with 30 rotela oil , the lifters are soaking now , let them soak over night ,, hopeful everything goes back tomm even