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Old 07-05-2007, 05:05 PM
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1965 Impala -- suspension/wheel question(s)

Hey y'all --

Duke here -- new to the forum -- what a great resource! Couldn't find this is any search (is there any good way to narrow a search to specific sub-forums?) so here goes...

I have a 1965 Chevy Impala SS (283/Powerglide). I just did a full suspension upgrade with polygraphite bushings. I replaced the rear springs with 1.5" drop springs (Classic Performance Products), and installed 2" drop spindles (again, CPP) for the front with a power booster and disc brake conversion kit (CPP) to replace the non-power drum fronts. Except the front sway bar, everything else is installed and is working fine.

Here's my questions:

1) I have a set of matching Cragar 14 x 6 uni-hub rims that I got a while back (long story -- came with 2 Fender guitar amps and a Telecaster as a package....) They will fit the 5 x 4.75 pattern. Two of the rims have tires (225/70/14), and they *appear* to clear the new brake hardware on the front so I put them on (with the proper mag lugs) just to get the car off the stands and see that the rest of the suspension install lined up properly, which it does. I like the look of the Cragars -- do you see any problem if I keep them on???? Later clearance problems?

2) The rear of the car now looks lower than the front. The rear is propped up on the old wheels (stock 14 x 5 with 215/75/14 tires) and the tires appear slightly taller than the Cragars on the front? Does this sound right? Might just be me, haven't measured it (the car height) properly because I need to get it to a more even surface. Any suggestions on tire size if I use the remaining two Cragar 14s (now just bare rims) to lift it a hair in the back?

3) Been struggling with the front sway bar, can't seem to get the dog bones pinned in properly. It doesn't feel like they'll compress enough. Any tricks you can suggest?

Thanks, folks -- I appreciate the help!

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What is the problem with the sway bar? If the loop at the end is not level when the car is at rest, you might not have enough length in the link bolt to even get the nut on. You may have to juggle the length of the spacer in order to get it oriented correctly.
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What is the problem with the sway bar? If the loop at the end is not level when the car is at rest, you might not have enough length in the link bolt to even get the nut on. You may have to juggle the length of the spacer in order to get it oriented correctly.
Interesting....you know, I got two sets of end links. One with the polygraphite set and one regular rubber set that came with the sway bar set-up (came boxed up as a unit -- in fact, I called PST to make sure I had it all correctly sorted out....).

I wonder if the bolts are the same size???? Have to go check.....
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a lot of the disc brake company's say that you need to upgrade to 15 inch rims when you convert to disc but there were a few swaps that allowed for 14's, as long as they fit and the rim doesn't rub against the caliper you should be good to go

as for the ride height i would wait until the car is on level ground then push up and down on both ends of the car to get the suspension to set.

when you put your control arms and the other parts together did you wait till the car was sitting on the ground with wheels on it before you torqued everything down if it wasn't at ride height you may be getting some binding.
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Thanks guys! Fixed a few of the issues.

Turns out that the two sets of sway bar end pins weren't exactly the same. Sure the lengths of the bolts were the same. But the set that came with the polygraphite bushing set were slightly heavier (thicker) bolts, but the spacer was longer. The ones that came with the (upgraded) sway bar kit were slightly less heavy-duty, but the spacer was shorter (to accomodate the thicker sway bar ends, I presume). I simply used the pins that came with the sway bar (and the coresponding shorter spacer) and subbed in the polygraphite bushings and it popped right into place.

As for the wheels/tires, the calipers look like they clear just fine. I (foolishly) did do some of the torqueing before the car was on all fours, so it's possible there's some binding. But I bounced the car quite a bit once it was on the ground, and it looks evenly set-in all over, so I don't think there's any severe binding -- if so, my guess is that it would be in the front (since that's the higher end now). It got towed to the alignment shop this morning to re-true the puppy after all the tweaking I've done, so I think any binding will be apparent to them. If it did bind, it did it perfectly even.
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well it sounds like your moving in the right direction, good luck with the alignment. you should start a journal so we can check out the car.
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Well, the mystery of the front being higher has been solved: I was sent the wrong springs. Got 'em in correctly, but they're too stiff -- my alignment guy had 600 lbs worth of mechanics on the front fender and the thing only sagged about an inch. So, those ugly bastards gotta come out and I gotta get new ones.

Gonna have a very tense conversation with the guys from the well-known performance parts company who put me through all this....

And yeah, I will start journal in a few days.....
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