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Old 02-14-2005, 04:03 PM
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1965 Vista Cruiser Wagon 4x4

I have just acquired a 1965 Olds Vista Cruiser wagon that was in the process of restoration. I am considering making it four wheel drive, similar to this 1981 Mercedes 300TD that I converted 3 years ago: http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...der_id=1185395

This time, I want to use S10 4x4 front suspension, the nice mid 70's Olds 350 that came in the car, a transfer case I have from a 1/2 ton Suburban, the rear axle that came with the car (10 bolt?) and the Turbo 350 that came with the car, at least I think it is a turbo 350. My questions:

1. What is the track of a stock s10 4x4? I think it is about 57 inches but have been unable to verify this.

2. What is the track of the front of my Vista Cruiser? I think it is about 59 inches but have been unable to verify this.

3. What is the curb weight of the Vista Cruiser? I found weights for Cutlasses of the same vintage to be around 3300 lbs. but can't find the spec for the wagon.

Any help is appreciated. By the way, I did a lot of Googling before I posted this.

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Old 02-14-2005, 04:13 PM
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I wish I had enough money to rescue a cool vista cruiser wagon
Oh well, thats the beauty or our hobby I geuss.
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I am interested in knowing what it would be worth stock. I bought it from a guy who had started restoring it.

It has new champagne color paint (pretty nicely done from bare metal). It has newly reupholstered seats done in the original fabric (very nicely done). It has nicely detailed body colored Olds 15" rally rims. New tires. Nicely painted (gold) but used mid 70's Olds 350, rebuilt turbo 350 transmission. It has no rust now or ever (Nevada car).

Now for the bad news: The front fenders, hood and core support are removed but still present and painted. No accessories are on the engine. 90% of the interior is removed. It needs a new headliner. The dash has some cracks.

It is obvious that this guy knew what he was doing (I saw some other nice projects at his house/shop) and his standards are much higher than mine. I bought it for $2540. My original idea was to put it together and sell it. If I can only get $4500 for it, though, I was thinking about doing the 4x4 conversion. I sold my MB wagon 4x4 for $5000. Unconverted it would have been worth perhaps $2000. That conversion took me 14 days (unlike my 2.3 turbo Ford powered 914 which took 300+ hours over 2 years). It can be seen here: http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...der_id=1185384

So talk to me. What is it worth stock?

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Old 02-15-2005, 01:18 PM
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Get a tape measure...............it is your friend.

Doesn't a 1/2 ton 4x4 have the front driveshaft going up the passenger side of the frame, whereas the s10 is up the drivers side? At least the older ones do.
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I was trying to remember which side the front driveshaft was on. I had measured s10's before for another project but I forgot. I have not had the chance to get out to the jy in a while to do any measuring.
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NADA price guide sets an original 1965 F85 Standard wagon, 330v8, no options, at $4,208 low retail, $14,988 high retail. $8,663 average.

Low retail is a driver in good shape, most useable "as is"
High retail is a #1 car.

http://www.nadaguides.com/

If you do a good job restoring, and can find a buyer, I would guess it to be in the 5-6K range, but you never know.

A 4x4 would be more fun and might be easier to sell
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I agree. A 4x4 might actually be easier to sell. Selling this MB wagon was pretty easy:

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...der_id=1185395

And driving it for a year and a half was a lot more fun than driving a stock one.

The NADA value for the VC was about $7K average retail. Thanks for the site. I did not know they had a classic car value category.
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