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Old 12-11-2003, 05:53 PM
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1970 pontiac gto judge ram air 3

I happen to have a 1970 judge, I am second owner, the car is a numbers matching except one of the heads is not orginal and the wheels arent either everthing else is. what i would like to is add aluminum heads to the car and redo the carb. I personaly do not like the prostreet look anymore, i would rather put 18's all the way around and airbag the car for a pro touring look. But if I add the heads and change the carb but try to keep as much stuff on it as possible stock except for suspension, heads, carb and replace carpet . will this hurt the cars resale value or will it add to it because of the fact that i am adding better replacement parts. there will be no cutting on the car . I have had some one offer me $28,000 for it last year. the miles is 68,000 and the color is white with the usual judge stuff, hurst shiffter ,etc.

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Old 12-11-2003, 07:09 PM
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There are a number of ways to look at this.
If you are a numbers matching, anal retentive, type of classic car owner then you are already up the creek without a paddle...
Or, if all that rot doesn't really matter to you and you just want to build the car as you see fit, I'd say go for.
My suggestion would be to sell the near perfect car and buy one your're not afraid to "tweak" a little. A '70 Lemans or a beat up GTO would suffice. Build it the way you want it and you'll still have some cash left over... My .02cents.
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I agree. Sell the car now and buy something you can play with without lowering the value. The Judge you have, even with one non original head still has a very high resale value and would be even better if you can find some original wheels. Any mods you make will lower the value, and it doesn't matter the quality of components you buy. Some cars are way more valuable as unrestored classics than others and the Judge is one of them.

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Old 12-12-2003, 08:23 AM
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I agree with everything that has been said.

Questions you need to ask yourself are,

1. How long do I plan to keep it?
a. a couple of years? Don't modify it.
b. a long time? Do what you want to it.

2. Will I have more fun with a car that I can modify w/o sacrificing it's value?
a. Yes, I'm a tinkerer and love to modify things. Sell it and buy a car of lesser value to play with.
b. No, I love restoring cars to their original state. Keep it.

I've owned my 65 GTO for over 22 years so I don't have a problem modifying it. (to a point) I won't put a roll bar in it.

I've owned my 67 GTO convertible for 23 years and am just starting to restore it. (to a point) I'm going to modify it by putting disc brakes, power steering, possibly EFI etc... because I plan to keep it another 23 at least as a driver.

Good luck on your decision.
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engine: do what ever you want, just keep the old parts.
carpet: ??? acc has, well, they say they do, the actual machines the factory used to make their carpet, so you should be okay if you use their product. you will never get more for that car than what it's worth right now. i mean stock. it will keep going up and up and up stock. not hopped up, unless you keep all the original parts, then i think, I, bullheimer, think a hopped up car is more likely to sell and should sell for just as much. but if you want to get right down to it. just by driving it, the original paint will take gas, and even that will depreciate it to some exent to the very anal retentive. even if it's repainted with an $8,000 paint job, some **** think that hurts its value.
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Old 12-21-2003, 12:20 AM
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While you can play with a GTO and tell people it's okay because the original parts are in the garage at home, I think that you might be strung up before getting the explanation out if you mess with da judge. These things are worth way more than they should be, and altering them brings them down to a mortal level. It's nothing for a pristine Judge to go for $45,000 or more. Hack it up by spending money on the wrong parts and you have a $5,000 car really quick.
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Old 12-25-2003, 11:35 PM
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You already have some of the best heads Pontiac ever built.
Why change them at all? Ram air 3's were 350hp stock. The next best you can do is Ram air 4, but the hp rating was the same.
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