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Old 03-06-2007, 10:56 AM
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1990 E-350 w/351W trans problem

My bro-in-law has a 1990 E-350 van w/351 Windsor. First off, what kind of trans would it have, a C-6? Itdoesn't appear to have OD, just 1-2-D on the column (from his description, I haven't seen it yet!). It moves in reverse, but no forward gears work. I've read about governor problems and such in some auto trannys causing this. It apparently hasn't been slipping or anything, just suddenly quit. Not knowing what model trans it would be - C-6 or AOD - keeps me from looking for specific info. Figured somoeone on here should know!

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I bet it is an AOD.

On the throttle body where the throttle linkage and the transmission cable connect (it looks like a cruise control cable), that cable has come disconnected probably.

There is a little plastic retainer for the end of the cable that looks like a brimmed hat/ the cable connect ball fits into it,

and these disintegrate from the heat and shatter, allowing the cable to disconnect. They are about $ 5 for a package of 2 at the Ford dealership (only). In fact it was such a problem, Ford came out with metal retainers instead of the plastic.

Usually they will drive in low and not shift. Lot's of transmission shops rip people off for overhauls because of this. $3, a fluid change, and an outside cleaning and charge for an overhaul.....

Hope that is the problem.

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Being it's a 1990 and a 1 ton (E350) it is more likey a C6 (3 speed) or E4OD (overdrive). Both have a history of the forward clutch teeth failing, causing no forward movement. There is no easy fix, just overhaul.
The shifter handle will tell the story. If it has an "overdrive off" button, it is the E4OD.
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Thanks for both replies! I'll check to see if it's an AOD, but being a 1-ton van Chazmac is probably right -- it's more likely a E4OD or C-6, and I suspect a C-6. Bro-in-law isn't real car savvy, but he's not a dunce! He mentioned no OD on the shift quadrant, just 1, 2, D. I tink he'd have noticed a switch, but I'll ask about that. Sounds like he needs a rebuild or to swap a used trans. That'
s what I was suggesting, but remembered something simple could fix some of them -- the AOD cable must be what I was thinking about.
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1990 E-350 w/351 trans problem

Xntrik, sorry bud,I like just about everything you post on this site,however, I must take exception to your comment "Lots of transmission shops rip people off for overhauls because of this."

No trans shop I have ever worked in,nor any that I know of in this area has ever done what you suggested.

We have saved lots of AOD's just by installing a new TV bushing, if we catch them in time.

With the TV system disabled and no line rise being introduced into the pressure system, transmission failure occurs quickly.

I'm am not so naive as to think no acts of fraud ever occur in the trans industry, but I'm sure it is a rare occurance.
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Xntrik, sorry bud,I like just about everything you post on this site,however, I must take exception to your comment "Lots of transmission shops rip people off for overhauls because of this."

No trans shop I have ever worked in,nor any that I know of in this area has ever done what you suggested.

I'm am not so naive as to think no acts of fraud ever occur in the trans industry, but I'm sure it is a rare occurance.

briscoe, I'm glad that you are honest. Don't appropriate that comment for yourself. It was just a general statement.

Fact is MANY shops do rip people off. I've seen it from Chicago to San Antonio.

I do NOT do transmissions.

First time for me I went to 4 shops. $ 750-1200 quotes. 4th shop was a guy from California who told me what it was, went out and looked, and it cost me $ 4 for a two pack. He refused payment, and I forced him to take $20 for this valuable information. (3 minutes = $400 hr. rate ) I will never go anywhere else. period.

Since then I have saved 4-5 transmissions for people that were selling their car because of the high quoted overhaul prices.
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1990 E350 w/351 trans problem

xntrik everything's cool. I did not take it personally,I am proud of the way we conduct business here.

I regret your bad experience,I just think a lot of the bad stuff that happens in this industry happens because of incompetents not because someone's trying to rip somebody off.

Either way is bad.
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It should be the E40D

And there is an overdrive. No switch, but there is a button. The button is mounted to the dash next to the steering wheel, om the left hand side

My dad has the same van, and his factory trans gave up the ghost at 70k miles. Not too shabby though, considering he towed a 7k trailer quite often with it.

He had a trans shop rebuild it with all the goodies.

Its now got over 250k on it, and STILL going strong. Most reliable Ford Ive ever been around. Only repair it has ever needed was the trans, and the fuel tank solenoid that controls which tank the pump pumps from.

Other than that, just routine maintenance.
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