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Old 12-04-2005, 02:39 PM
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1991 Stupid Ford Escort 1.9 will not start

My brother's 1991 Escort 1.9 will would not start yestarday. It would almost start but it shut down a few seconds later,so we called a tow truck to bring the car to our house.

At home I sprayed carb cleaner in the throttle body, would not start, so is not a fuel problem and I pulled all spark plugs and they smell like gas. The starter and battery is good they were checked at an Murrays Auto store. The Alternator was installed last year( same alternator was fix). My dad and I think the problem is around the ignition system. I looked at the Crankshaft pulley and it moves along with the s. belt.

Another question is there a way to test a Alternator?

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If it cranks over, you battery is good, so I wouldn't worry about the alternator.

Check for spark. Hold a plug wire about 1/4 inch from the block and crank. It should spark.

These engines are bad for broken timing belts........If it is broken, valve damage is likely as these are interference engines............hope its not that.
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First thing that came to my mind was timing belt, like poncho said they are a common problem but i have not had one of these motors bend the valves. I have installed about 4 or 5 belts on different cars after they broke and have not had a problem.
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I only have done one, and the valves were all bent to crap........so I figured that was common also.....maybe, it was something else that caused it.
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I thought the belt also. The early 1.9 were an interference engine but, after some extremely expensive repairs by owners with poor maintenance habits, I believe Ford notched the pistons enough not to tap them. The '91 would probably be one of the later engines.
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im betting on the control module or if it has one, the crankshaft position sensor.
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those motors fry the ignition modules all the time. Pull the oil plug and look in the hole while someone cranks the motor. If you see rockers moving around you can bet the belt is ok. My daughters tracer (same motor) ate a timing belt and we just put a new one on. The valves were ok. The build date was 6/90 so it might have been after the change that woods 428 mentioned. You will need the special little nutdriver,(Lisle or K-D tool make them), to change that module if that is what is wrong.
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The car has Crankshaft Position Sensor. How do I test it?
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The car has Crankshaft Position Sensor. How do I test it?
the only way i know of testing them is removing it and taking it to Auto-Zone. they have a component tester for crank sensors manufactured by Wells. (the tester is also for knock sensors, cam sensors, and other electronic engine timing management items.

its always been a good rule of thumb that if the vehicle has a tachometer and it moves as the engine is cranked, the crank sensor is ok.
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You need a lab scope or a tool like the Snap-On Vantage to test it properly. Before you look at electronic components, do as advised earlier. Remember K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple, Stupid, no insult intended). Electronic stuff is usually fairly reliable, so look mechanical first. Is the cam turning? (mentioned before) Look for loose wiring, check for spark and spark intensity. If all these check out, then start looking at sensors, moduals, ect.
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Before you spend much time, take off the oil cap and have a friend try to start it while you look through the hole at the nearest valve spring you can spot and watch to see if there is any movement while the motor spins. No movement, timing belt most likely. This is how we diagnosed our 97 1.9 Escort. Or, pull the cover and watch. Either way will tell you very quickly.
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That's funny almost everyone's first thought was "timing belt" that was mine as well. I have seen these cars break timing belts fairly often.

In this case after reading the description, it doesn't sound like a belt. He said it tries to start and then dies. If that is accurate then I doubt it's a belt. Maybe he is saying it is turning over and not starting, if that's the case I would bet it's the timing belt. Easy to figure out as stated a couple times above, check for rocker/spring movement through the oil cap. No movement means there is a broken timing belt. The couple that I have worked on just needed a new belt, no damage to the valves/heads were done.

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People who said the timing belt was the problem, you are right!!

Yesterday I removed the Rocker Arm Cover and saw the timing belt , it did not move, when told my brother to crank it, so replacing time!!
Where should I get the timing belt and water pump?
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:19 AM
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My went to an autostore, and bought A Bando Timing belt( TB194), Is this brand good or should I tell my brother to return and buy a Gates Timing belt.
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