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Old 10-14-2003, 06:11 PM
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1st, 2nd, 3rd! No 4th gear

In my 2004r tranny I installed, it is acting a little strange.

First off, it seems to vog the motor down when giving a lot of throttle. I am guessing that I could have damaged the hei, while filling tranny up a little spilled on the hei distributor an plug wires. That question is still in the air.

2nd off, i tried to hook the lock-up to a toggle switch but does not want to work.

3rd off, it seems that I dont have fourth gear (od).
when I shift manually from 1st up it feels like I am only getting 3 gears. It could be just me, but there is a sort of vibration when leaving off the throttle. And ever since I put trany in, there is a knocking feel in the steering wheel. Like something is tapping it.

4th off, When I put tranny and torque converter in, the torque converter had to be pulled a 1/2 inch towards the flywheel. When back at the tranny the converter spun freely and easily. When put to the flywheel, it was less free and took more force to spin.

Could I have the wrong converter? COuld I just get new bolts and spacers to go between the converter and flywheel?

Keep in mind I am probably going to be parking the car in about a month and making it into a race car. Rollcage and a 454 engine.
Just dont want the thing to die on me in the mean time.

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here's what I know

on the torque converter, you need to pull the flywheel forward when you install it (buy hand or prybar)just slide it to the flywheel and make sure you have your alignment hole in the right spot. then you can tighten it down. If you try to pull it in with the bolts it will get ****ed in the and will wear out the pump inside and depending on how long you drove it this way it could have some parts wore out on the inside. this could cause a vibration in the car after you let off the gas. As for the gears I will find out at work tomorrow. What trany is it?
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The thing is, I can slide it back and forth. It is in the splines right.
I was told that I should only be able to move it back and forth 1/8" from flywheel to tranny. I can move it much more than that.
It is a 2004r tranny from the yard'.

I have a pecular feeling that maybe my diveshaft is not balanced anymore, but that would not explain the knocking in the steering and the bogging down. It acts like it wants to stall but does not, and when taking off it feels like only half the engine is working. This only happens in gear. It does not happen in nuetral or park.
In park and neutral it purrrs!

I forgot to add, I can start the car in any gear. I think that is a no-no.

I am probably being a pain in the *** about this, and I am sorry.
You only learn once and then you know better! lol

I think I am just looking for reassurance that the tranny won't fly apart in the next month. also a fix for it. lol

I was just looking around the web and found some interesting info.

Do you think that the thrust bearing could be the culprit of my dilema?
I did have 3/4 inch of metal in the pan of my last tranny, and the torque converter fell apart inside when I took it off.
Maybe my problem is a little bigger than I thought?

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k well my first question is did you flush the tranny cooler if the torque converter went bad on the old tranny it will shed bits of metal that would have been pumped though the tranny and cooler, if you don't flush the cooler these metal filling will destroy a new tranny in short order.
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Old 10-15-2003, 01:52 PM
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yes I flushed cooler with air compressor.
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First, I would not be concerned about the space between the convertor and flywheel being over 1/8". I don't know where that info came from, but it is wrong. As for the engine bogging down when in gear, check for an engine miss under load. Check to make sure that the plug wires and dist cap are on right, and no wores loose. For the vibration, check the mounts, engine and trans. Also check and make sure the exhaust is not hitting something. Since you did not give any info as to what car you are working on, it is just a guess, but you might try taking the driveshaft loose and turn it 1/2 turn in the rear yoke. If the driveshaft connects at the rearend with a flange, they often vibrate if installed different than originally.
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Thanks for the suggestions adtkart.
The car I am working on is an 85 Monte Carlo SS.

I did find the knocking feeling in the steering whell, I think. The starter bolt came out of it and was loose. I have fixed that and hopefully fixed that problem. I also turned the timing up about 6 degrees past the norm, for it to stop wanting to cut out at a stop sign.
I do still have a leak coming from the torque converter everytime I stop. It is only a few drops, but I can live with that for a short time. I was trhinking about rotating the driveshaft to see what it will do, so I think I will rotate it tomorrow after work.
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