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Old 03-05-2013, 04:33 PM
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200 4r extra lor/rev clutch count

Question is, can or has anyone rebuilt a 200 4r an added an extra clutch in the low reverse assemble? , I rebuilt one for my nova and its good to go with the extra clutches and ect. Now i'm working on a second one with all the extra clutches and noticed that there is a little extra clearance. Can you just forget the low/rev waved plate and put an extra clutch and steel in its place? Is that wave plate that critical in that clutch pack? What is the adverse affect if you leave it out?

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It'll loosen the fillings in your teeth when you put it in reverse. Leave the wave plate in.200-4R's don't need an extra rev. clutch.
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Yea, i'm sure your right, that extra room, clearance, and wave plate save it from harsh engagements. All three of the trannys i've tore down had really good low clutches. Actualy they looked more like new compared to the other clutches. I guess i'll leave it alone and put the pan on it and store it away.
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Those clutches aren't "shifting clutches", they are applied or not. Not moving when engaged, or at least they shouldn't be. Plain tan stockers are what I am putting in mine.
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This was my second 200 4r that i've built. Its about completed and I was giving its final inspection before i'm done. I have used all read clutches. I've put 5 in the forward, 8 in the direct, 3 in the overrun, 3 in the fourth clutch pact and wide red band. I was wondering if there was a way of putting one extra in low/rev pact. I've studied it a little more and i think i'll leave it alone since the first one i built is working just fine in my nova. Got to pick up my modified tranny pan tomarrow and finish this one off and store it away.
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How were you able to get eight into the direct? I have read that the steels get hot spotted easier when the real thin ones are used to put extra clutches in as they can't dissapatr the heat. I am using some .100 thick steels and going with six raybestos red clutches. I was told to pack it tight for a good 2-3 shift.

I got almost all my parts and have begun assembly.
Glad your first one is working well.
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The Alto Power Pack w/8 Red Frictions are .061", Kolene Steels are .060" thick. Same as Forwards. They do have a tendency to hot spot, especially if the 2-3 shift isn't calibrated perfectly, no delay & 0 slip.
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Yes, I'm using the thinner clutches and steels in the forward and direct clutch pacts. I cut down the apply rings just a little and use a thicker steel or two just to get the right clearances. The problem i see it that the cooling of the tranny fluid was a large problem in these 200 4r. The ones that use the deeper pans and larger coolers, don't seem to have this problem. That is why i have my pans modified so its about 1 1/2 inches deeper and the 700 r4 filter. Use the largest cooler so you have larger cooling as well as volume of fluid.
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