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Old 10-11-2010, 12:18 PM
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200-4r identification

Hey everyone im looking at buying a core to build a transmission for my 86 cutlass. Found a guy on craigslist near me with a 200-4r out of an 87 cutlass. He said the ID number on it is 309-872KJF1555 can anyone tell me if this is a good core? Thanks

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Pictures of transmission pans,
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I was wondering more if someone can tell me if this is a good canidate to build up. I know some 200-4r trans are better than others this http://web.archive.org/web/200701281.../thm2004r.html is what im going off of as of now and according to the number i got something is wrong
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I think you'd do better over at turbo Buick, 200-4Rs is what came in theses cars,
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I was wondering more if someone can tell me if this is a good canidate to build up. I know some 200-4r trans are better than others this http://web.archive.org/web/200701281.../thm2004r.html is what im going off of as of now and according to the number i got something is wrong
What do you mean, something is wrong? That code list isn't complete.
KJ code = 307 Y engine w/3.08/3.23 rear Gear. The KB code probably came with a different rear gear ratio.

If your gonna use this connected to a SBC engine it will be fine.
Build it with a HP rebuild kit, w/CK Shift Recal Kit & use a GN, SSMonte or 442 Gov for 6000rpm & up Auto shifts. Chris, Jake, Bison or Lonnie on TurboBuick.com can help with Vbody mods needed, may need to change Line Bias spring also.
I posted some links there today about Higher rpm shifts.
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Many use the KC Vbody & GN Gov for higher rpm Auto shifts = 6000rpm.
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What do you mean, something is wrong? That code list isn't complete.
KJ code = 307 Y engine w/3.08/3.23 rear Gear. The KB code probably came with a different rear gear ratio.

If your gonna use this connected to a SBC engine it will be fine.
Build it with a HP rebuild kit, w/CK Shift Recal Kit & use a GN, SSMonte or 442 Gov for 6000rpm & up Auto shifts. Chris, Jake, Bison or Lonnie on TurboBuick.com can help with Vbody mods needed, may need to change Line Bias spring also.
I posted some links there today about Higher rpm shifts.
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Many use the KC Vbody & GN Gov for higher rpm Auto shifts = 6000rpm.
My bad i was looking at the wrong digits lol. its gonna go behind a 400hp sbc. I was thinking MASTER REBUILD KIT #24RRK/C http://www.ckperformance.com/resourc...BUILDKITS.html
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http://www.ckperformance.com/resourc...CALMANUAL.html
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I don't think Chris has anymore Manuals available, an ASTG manual & video would be good.
This link has several sites w/build Info I listed >> http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/tra...ml#post2568243
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does anyone think that the rebuild kit MASTER REBUILD KIT #24RRK/B will hold up to my power goals?
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does anyone think that the rebuild kit MASTER REBUILD KIT #24RRK/B will hold up to my power goals?
I can't remember what they are? Use, HP/TQ?
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I can't remember what they are? Use, HP/TQ?
IT will be street/strip. Going in a 86 cutlass Should be making at the crank like 400hp/400tq.
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IT will be street/strip. Going in a 86 cutlass Should be making like 400hp/400tq.
Should be but, Inspect the Stator Support for wear, 87 should already have the Hardened one.
The weak link is the Shaft in the Forward Drum. The Billet Shaft Forward Drum is good insurance, not cheap tho'. CK usually has sale around Christmas time. Usually about $80-$100 off. http://www.ckperformance.com/resourc...OMPONENTS.html
Inspect all Planetaries & O/D Ring Gear splines.

Keep an eye out here for sale prices>> http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/transmission-talk/ & here >> http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/advertiser-specials/
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K thx. Does anyone make trans brakes for these trans?
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K thx. Does anyone make trans brakes for these trans?
Oh Yeah!
You can get a Manual type called "Stage Right" replaces the Manual Shift Valve in Valvebody, comes w/Sep. Plate etc..
Or you can get the more expensive Electric Brake.
http://www.extremeautomatics.com/pro...004rparts.html
If you're gonna run a T-Brake you should get a 4340 or 300M Billet Input Shaft also. + A good Driveshaft & U-Joints and strong Rear.

Stage Right, place Shifter in Low/1, mat gas peddle, slap shift to 2nd or D to release. You do lose the Manual Low gear function as this locks the Trans in R & D simultaneously.
Electric Brake works off a switch. No loss of Low/1st gear.
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Hi,
Read about the parts in this trans. & compare it with the kit your looking at.
http://www.transmissioncenter.net/200-4r.htm
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This is a good comparison of many builds.>> http://www.extremeautomatics.com/eavscomp/th2004r.html Look for E/A to PATC
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