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dwwl 01-18-2013 11:30 AM

200 4r KCZ valve body
 
I had a 200 4r valve body given to me that had been in a transmission the guy salvage out for the aluminum case. I knew i had rebuilt a 200 4r for my toy and thought i should have it. It sat in his old shed for a few years and was cleaning it out and though of me and just gave it to me. On the side it has the letters KCZ. Anyone know which car this may of been in. My transmission identifier codes sheet doesn't help me any. Yes, it is a 200 4r valve body. It also has D-10 on it as well.

dwwl 01-18-2013 12:12 PM

I forgot to mention that he gave me the blue tranny tag he said was on the tranny. Its strang because one the blue face side it only has th letters HF F and no serial number on the bottom. On the back side of the tag it has the letters cz f etched into it, with the number 196-862czf1565 stanped into the back that should of been on the blue side.

SSedan64 01-21-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dwwl (Post 1636255)
I forgot to mention that he gave me the blue tranny tag he said was on the tranny. Its strang because one the blue face side it only has th letters HF F and no serial number on the bottom. On the back side of the tag it has the letters cz f etched into it, with the number 196-862czf1565 stanped into the back that should of been on the blue side.

That is odd having 2 different Codes. The original CZ Tag may have been mangled & someone just copied the Info onto the HF Tag.
The HF would indicate a Hurst, F = 2004R Trans.
196 = Julian Date, 196th day of Yr.
86 = 1986
2 = 2nd Shift
CZ = Monte Carlo SS w/3.73 Gear.
F = 2004R
1565 = Serial Number.


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Originally Posted by dwwl (Post 1636250)
I had a 200 4r valve body given to me that had been in a transmission the guy salvage out for the aluminum case. I knew i had rebuilt a 200 4r for my toy and thought i should have it. It sat in his old shed for a few years and was cleaning it out and though of me and just gave it to me. On the side it has the letters KCZ. Anyone know which car this may of been in. My transmission identifier codes sheet doesn't help me any. Yes, it is a 200 4r valve body. It also has D-10 on it as well.

Ink Stamp should be KC or KZ with a number afterward KC7, KZ7 etc...
KC = Olds, B or D body w/307eng. & 2.73 gear.
KZ = Hurst Olds/Cutlass 442, 307eng. & 3.73 gear.

KZ code would also have a Purple stain like PVC pipe cleaner, like this BR3 Vbody below.

dwwl 01-21-2013 11:03 AM

I though the same thing about the tag bing ruined and some using a different tag, but that doesn't expain why there is no serial number on it. I don't think someone can just get a plain jan tag with no serial number and put it on. The only etched letters are the cz f, the other numbers look very much like the other number on my other 200 4r's. I with he would of kept the other parts, such as the governor and speed-o gears, that would of told me alot ilf this was something different.

dwwl 01-21-2013 11:19 AM

after reading your post, i went and looked at it again. I think its kc7 on the valve body and not kcz. Im wondering if the valve body may of been changed in the tranny at some time in the past. No matter what, i now have extra parts for my other two 200 4r trannys.

artsvettes 01-22-2013 08:10 AM

No serial or vin number could have been a over the counter GM replacement trans is my thought

dwwl 01-22-2013 11:35 AM

Are there other 200 4r valve bodies that have the purple paint. I have one that has the purple paint on it but it wasn't out of a monte carlo eather. I was told there are some other number on the valve body that tell if its the better one. there is suppose to be a D with a number after it. The high the number, the better the valve body callibration. This valve body has a D-10. My other valve body on the second tranny i'm rebuilding has a D-7. Don't know it that means anything?


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