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Old 09-22-2011, 11:55 PM
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200-4R Trans builders - Info?

I'm getting ready to order a 200-4R for my 96 c1500 shorty, 388, good power and nice low end. Been looking at a few different builders, had my mind pretty much decided on CK Performance, but now am not sure. Performabuilt carries twice the warranty. Performabuilt's trannys are little cheaper, but their converters are twice the money. So, it's all about the same. CK offers free shipping tho. And Extreme Automatics doesn't look bad either. Any one have any experiences with these folks...good or bad??

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Personally I'd go with Chris @CKPerformance, Lonnie @ExtremeAutomatics or Dave @TurboBuickPerformance.
PerformaBuilt has a better Rep with 700R4/4L60/60E's, not so much with the 2004R's.
Lonnie's closest to you, Cincinnati, Ohio.
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The websites are rather confusing. They talk about ECU for the lockup. My ECU has been removed and I'm running a carb. Do any of these lockup themselves under light throttle in OD without an ECU?
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The websites are rather confusing. They talk about ECU for the lockup. My ECU has been removed and I'm running a carb. Do any of these lockup themselves under light throttle in OD without an ECU?

It is easy to hook up the converter lockup with no computer in the vehicle.

Some one will post a link to kits soon,

At the top of the pages of trans forum is a ''sticky'' that gives a basic idea of the wire diagram hookup needed.

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Aha! I get it. Thanx much!!



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Lookat my 3rd Post in this Thread >> 89 700r valve body question for lockup 2004R & 700R4 use the same method for TCC Lockup.

You can go cheap DIY or expensive Kits:
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...ter+lockup+kit

http://www.summitracing.com/search/P...ter+lockup+kit
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Lookat my 3rd Post in this Thread >> 89 700r valve body question for lockup 2004R & 700R4 use the same method for TCC Lockup.

You can go cheap DIY or expensive Kits:
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...ter+lockup+kit

http://www.summitracing.com/search/P...ter+lockup+kit

Great info. Thanx. A couple of the builders I spoke with have told me that the trans automatically locks up at light throttle in 4th gear. But I didn't think to ask them how,
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bought my 700r4 from these guys. http://www.phoenixtrans.com/
7 yrs later when i got it on the road and my speedo gear wasn't right, they charged me shipping only to get the right parts.
contact greg@phoenixtrans.com for the best service in town.
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It costs me 75 bucks to ship a 110pd shipping crate/ muncie 4spd combo to PA from Syracuse; and about 110 to go to Washington state. our crate dims ae 35"L x 15"W x 14"H. Of course the auto is bigger because of the bell.

That will give you a small idea of what shipping is going to look like. WRT Chris vs Lonnie; neither one is a bad choice. Id have CK do my 200-4r but it might be cheaper for Lonnie because Id have to pay NY Sales tax to CK. Its a wash as far as quality and price I bet. Talk to both and get what you need.

Make sure you keep the shipping container; even if you never have a warranty issue, you may want to have it freshened up or need to store it.
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I spoke with Chris at CK about a year ago and he is the one who told me that the converter locks automatically at light throttle in 4th gear. I just didn't think to ask him how. Don't know if something is all built in or if anything extra was needed. According to their website it sure looks like they use good stuff.
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When the Trans shifts to 4th gear, line pressure grounds the 4th gear Pr. switch which completes the Ground circuit to the TCC Solenoid Black wire.
You just have to supply 12V+ to Pin-A on the 4-Pin Trans connector which goes to the TCC Solenoid Red wire.
Ignition on, 12V+ from Brake Light switch to Trans/Pin-A = Lockup when 4th Pr. switch is activated.
Optional Toggle switch for manual Lockup control.

Lonnie or Chris will build you a great Trans. Both manufacture all the 4340 Billet Steel Hard Parts.
I know Lonnie has a 1yr. transferable warranty & $350 lifetime freshen up/ rebuild, Clutches, Band & Seals.
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When the Trans shifts to 4th gear, line pressure grounds the 4th gear Pr. switch which completes the Ground circuit to the TCC Solenoid Black wire.
You just have to supply 12V+ to Pin-A on the 4-Pin Trans connector which goes to the TCC Solenoid Red wire.
Ignition on, 12V+ from Brake Light switch to Trans/Pin-A = Lockup when 4th Pr. switch is activated.
Optional Toggle switch for manual Lockup control.

Lonnie or Chris will build you a great Trans. Both manufacture all the 4340 Billet Steel Hard Parts.
I know Lonnie has a 1yr. transferable warranty & $350 lifetime freshen up/ rebuild, Clutches, Band & Seals.
Thanx. I understand how they work, I'm assuming they are setup from the builder with the pigtail and I just need to put power on the proper pins.
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The Pigtail doesn't come with most Trans. You can request one tho' or buy elsewhere.
http://www.repairconnector.com/produ...Connector.html

Or clip one off in a Salvage yard.
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