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Old 02-14-2011, 09:50 AM
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2012 Hyaundi Genesis 5.0- more power than most

Anyone see the 5.0 r-spec Hyundai. 429hp from 5.0L, not too shabby.

If it wasn't for the curb weight it'd be a pretty nice little car.

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If they do actually put it in he Coupe(Which I doubt they will) it will be exactly what that car needed. A kick in the proverbial pants.

Both the Genesis and Equus sedans are of course more portly but still in the same HP/Weight ratio ballpark with the rest of the Detroit muscle.

I think Hyundai hit a home run with the new Sonata especially with the 2.0T option. 30+ mpg and nearly 300HP from a great looking family sedan is a WIN in my book
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I think the coupe looks much better but I don't know if the average coupe buyer could swing another 10-15K for the 5.0L option. Especially when you can take a 2.0T and with 5K in supporting mods have over 429hp.

Still, very impressive.
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New cars are quick.

A 74 nova 350/350 with the good factory heads and cam, was a mid 15sec ride. 15 mpg
The 86 mustang GT 5 speed 15.3sec runner. 19 mpg
The 99 camaro 6 spd LS1 goes high 13's . 28 mpg
Fords new family car Taurus 4dr has 300 hp, 7 speeds, mid 14's . 30 mpg

In the 80's people needed to hotrod with 10.5:1 edelbrock RPM heads, cam, carb, 4.10 gears to dip into the low 14's in a 3rd gen camaro. Something changed, could be the water.
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Around 1979 hot rodding was all but buried. The future was four cylinder gas and smog savers with zero power and 55 MPH speedometers. I painted at work what was the new "hot rod" a T bucket with a Capri V6. That was as hot as things would get in the future. In a Motor Trend magazine was an article on the 427 Shelby Cobra. They told about how fast this car was when they did the road test on it 15 years before. It was like a funeral, a wake if you will.

The article ended with this line. "Will there ever be a car like the 427 Cobra again, never, and that's a long time".

My friends 2009 Z06 Vette is about a second faster in the quarter than that Cobra, can stop in about half the distance and can do it all while you are rolling up and down power windows with the AC and multi speaker stereo blaring!

"Never" came along a lot faster than they thought!

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New cars are quick.
Fords new family car Taurus 4dr has 300 hp, 7 speeds, mid 14's . 30 mpg
You can get the Taurus SHO too. It has a twin turbo V6 and 365 hp.

The new F-150 has a 3.5L (213 ci) twin turbo V6 that makes 365 hp and 420 lb-ft at just 2500 rpm. It has 10:1 compression too.

The new 5.0L in the Mustang has 11:1 compression makes 412 hp on 93 octane gas but can be safely driven on 87 octane and still make 400+ hp.

Technology has come a long way in just the last 5-10 years.

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You gotta love computers. Both from engine controls as well as a design standpoint.
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