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27 chevy

I don,t seem to find any 27-28 chevy hot rods why is this, they all seem to be fords I just got a 27 coupe and wondering why I can't find any rods in this year?

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Although Chevy surpassed Ford in sales in 1927 (over 675,000) not many have survived. GM cars used a wood frame for the body in their cars of that era. Ford used a steel inner structure for their cars starting in 1926. Over the years if Chevy's were not kept under cover the wood in the Chevy's would rot and the metal body which was nailed to the wood would fall off in pieces. The Fords did not and so many more survived even if they were sitting in the field. As well many rodders did not want to spend the time replacing the wood or building a new inner structure with steel.

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Can't say it any better than Homebrew just did, he pretty well nailed it. The only thing I could add is Chevy had a 4 or 6 cylinder for most of the 30-50s, Ford came out with the v-8 and it seemed like a naural hot rod to build, get a Ford v-8 and put it into an older T or A, 5 bucks for a clunker in those days, a young guy with dreams and you had a hot rod. If'n I remember right, Ford also had a patent on the design of using metal in the body to replace the wood, you could use their patent but it would cost you. Dan
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Although Chevy surpassed Ford in sales in 1927 (over 675,000) not many have survived. GM cars used a wood frame for the body in their cars of that era. Ford used a steel inner structure for their cars starting in 1926. Over the years if Chevy's were not kept under cover the wood in the Chevy's would rot and the metal body which was nailed to the wood would fall off in pieces. The Fords did not and so any more survived even if they were sitting in the field. As well many rodders did not want to spend the time replacing the wood or building a new inner structure with steel.
My 30 model Ford coupe had wood in it.......its still in it and its the original wood.......the model A's also had wood floors...I replaced them with steel. But yeh....the Chevys's had a lot more wood than the Fords.
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I've always wondered just how many cars were scrapped during the scrap metal drives of WWII ? That was about 35 years before my time; anybody here around at that time???

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dodge all steel (advertisement slogam in the 20's)

dodge used more steel in their cars of that time and if you can find then they are even stronger than fords. I found a 1922 dodge touring a couple of years ago and a 1919 front half touring this year in the Nevada desert. I bought 3 dump truck loads of stuff this year that included a dodge touring.. the only problem is the dodge doors swing wide open then you can just up and they are off. None of my stuff has doors
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is the frame on a 27 chevy strong enough if boxed? I'm going to use a small block chevy motor also any ideas on a front end
any ideas are appreciated
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When i go to car shows i would call it luck to find any chevys from 1927-1933. Guess they are rare. I have a basket case 32 body that I bought for 800 and slowly but surely i have been collecting parts (frame rearend...) so far i have a rolling chassis for under $1000. I am going to box the frame some time when i'm out of college. Frame rails are thick and i think it would be fine for you to box it..it would hold up.

post some pics and if you haven't done so start a journal

as for a front end. I have been trying to figure this out also. I have been told you can buy 600 dollar front disc brake kits that use the existing spindle.
But what happens if the rotor warps(has happened in my truck) where do you get the replacement.

problems i have been told are that the chevy kingpin is thin

also been told to buy a droped axle but not to sure i want this because i would think it would lower the front end. No idea on the price and setup but i think you would have to got with Ford

Also have heard of people who fabed the original spindles to accept later rotors and bearing.

I was thinking of using a willy front end 1939+

i don't know. Food for thought

Good luck

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If I remember the early chevy used 2 paralled springs, THere is an old chevy hay wagon in the neighbor's pasture I can have it if I clean up the corner of scrap. Real early is reverse of the 28 and later fords. the axle has the spread fork and the spindle mounts between, like an original T model Ford. I have switched spindles before , new bronse bushings then reamed to fit the axle king pins. the camber ange should be the same ..but truck alignment shops can bend an axle. I have 45 chevy 2 ton chassis my son is going to build an antique parade fire truck... I haven't measured but I think I can put 70's ford truck spindles on it with a little machine work. look at ford pickup spindles from the 70's or older chevy trucks. there are alot of possibilities.
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chevy frame

I used a 28 chevy frame on by first t bucket 50 years ago. I t seems it was plenty strong enough...check carefully for rust weakend spots and cracks, If it is ok box it. or use new 2 x 3 or 2 x 4 tubing and just use the front curved portion for original look,
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Speedway has axles that use chev spindles..and from them the replacement disks are easily doable and they have been around for a lot of years..If the existing frame is in the area of decent then go ahead and box it if not then making a new chassis with square tube is not al that hard..May not be perfect replica but will work just fine..

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The Chevy frame, if it is in good condition, is plenty strong enough if it is boxed. Many of the track roadster builders of the 30's, 40's and 50's used them for their dirt track cars and most of them weren't boxed.
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is the frame on a 27 chevy strong enough if boxed? I'm going to use a small block chevy motor also any ideas on a front end
any ideas are appreciated
My friend just bought a '27 Chevy a month ago in great original shape! He loves to drive it but it only goes about 35 mph. My question to you is if you put a small block chevy in it, which I think is a great idea, is how are you planning to STOP the car? It only has back brakes and they are bands!
If you have this figured out, please let me know and I will tell my friend. Keep me posted, John
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[QUOTE=big-john45] My question to you is if you put a small block chevy in it, which I think is a great idea, is how are you planning to STOP the car? It only has back brakes and they are bands! QUOTE]

If he puts a 350 in it he will have to replace the rear end. That will have hydralic brakes and with the front suspension I would suspect he will be going with disc brakes. Four wheel brakes on ALL hot rods.

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1927 Chevy

I didn't think of that. I know he wants to keep it original as much as possible, but if he plans to get on the road with the car, he will need a braking system other than the bands on the rear. I appreciate the info and will tell him today. Many thanks, John
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