[ap72]

Originally Posted by 1971BB427

I would guess at 26 yrs. old you probably know much more than I do. I better shutup.

You obviously know more about making cool little trophies for car shows than I do. I would have like to use that timing cover you used though, it looks like a nice heavy piece.

One of these days when I have time I'd like to get back into the show thing, right now I just go to them when I can and never enter a car, which is only a few times a year.

[S10 Racer]

Originally Posted by ap72

Nostalgia is a helluva drug.

THOSE Nostalgia days were the best. You had to have lived it to know anything about it and appreciate it. Oh, and speaking of drugs, do you remember Woodstock? Oh, nevermind.............

[cobalt327]

Threads on the 301/302 SBC draws ap72 in like a bug to a zapper- 302 Chevy Specs

But what I do not get is why, then do you go and "build" one if they are so crappy? Yeah, I remember it was because you didn't want to tear up a T5 w/too much power, but wouldn't stepping up to a better tranny make more sense than building a weird-o baby LT1-based 302?

After all, you could have just ran a 0.060" over 283 and been done w/it and you'd never have missed those 10 inches. No need for all the hoop-jumping and theatrics. Why that odd 302? I forget, was it just because you "can"? Or was it, because it's "different"? Or was it "I had most of the parts anyway". Or all of the above? NONE of the above?

In any event, for as long as this thing has been being built, If you torqued one bolt per day from the first time I heard of it, you'd be on your forth engine by now...

[ap72]

Originally Posted by cobalt327

Threads on the 301/302 SBC draws ap72 in like a bug to a zapper- 302 Chevy Specs

But what I do not get is why, then do you go and "build" one if they are so crappy? Yeah, I remember it was because you didn't want to tear up a T5 w/too much power, but wouldn't stepping up to a better tranny make more sense than building a weird-o baby LT1-based 302?

After all, you could have just ran a 0.060" over 283 and been done w/it and you'd never have missed those 10 inches. No need for all the hoop-jumping and theatrics. Why that odd 302? I forget, was it just because you "can"? Or was it, because it's "different"? Or was it "I had most of the parts anyway". Or all of the above? NONE of the above?

In any event, for as long as this thing has been being built, If you torqued one bolt per day from the first time I heard of it, you'd be on your forth engine by now...

You're right, it has taken forever as I've gotten distracted with my 280z and bobcat.

Part of the reason I picked it is to be different, it's also going to be DIS. And only running a water pump and low mount alternator to be different. I do finally have all the short block components, I just need to take the zetec engine off the stand and start assembly- if I don't have to move first.

[prostreet6t9]

Originally Posted by cobalt327

Threads on the 301/302 SBC draws ap72 in like a bug to a zapper- 302 Chevy Specs

But what I do not get is why, then do you go and "build" one if they are so crappy? Yeah, I remember it was because you didn't want to tear up a T5 w/too much power, but wouldn't stepping up to a better tranny make more sense than building a weird-o baby LT1-based 302?

After all, you could have just ran a 0.060" over 283 and been done w/it and you'd never have missed those 10 inches. No need for all the hoop-jumping and theatrics. Why that odd 302? I forget, was it just because you "can"? Or was it, because it's "different"? Or was it "I had most of the parts anyway". Or all of the above? NONE of the above?

In any event, for as long as this thing has been being built, If you torqued one bolt per day from the first time I heard of it, you'd be on your forth engine by now...

Now that's funny I wish I had some of those 302 parts laying around. I have a block and heads but no crank or the "pink" rods. It would make a good addition to my other camaro. I've found them for sale but I can't bring myself to spend $2500 on a crank.

[cobalt327]

I jerk ap's chain- sometimes pretty hard. But I will say up front that for as frustrating as he can be sometimes, the forum would be a less interesting place w/o him. Sometimes a kernel of new info can come from viewpoints outside the accepted norm, and ap72 is nothing, if not outside the norm!

[Richiehd]

Originally Posted by prostreet6t9

Now that's funny I wish I had some of those 302 parts laying around. I have a block and heads but no crank or the "pink" rods. It would make a good addition to my other camaro. I've found them for sale but I can't bring myself to spend $2500 on a crank.

Doesn't someone make an aftermarket 3.00 crank for less than $2500

[cobalt327]

I just did a quick search and all I see is a Lunati for $1822.00. Eagle has a forged 3.25" for $575.

[prostreet6t9]

Originally Posted by Richiehd

Doesn't someone make an aftermarket 3.00 crank for less than $2500

Yea I've seen some aftermarket ones for 700 to 1000. If I was gonna do it I would really like a OE crank that hasn't been ground and thats where the money comes in if your lucky enough to find one. I would like to have a "correct" short block.

My 68 if far from a Numbers car.. But the 12 bolt I have is for a 68 and it would be kinda cool to have a correct 302 short block.

[ap72]

Or if you have the balls for it you can run a cast crank out of a 4.3l in a 1pc rms block... be sure to use light pistons though as balancing on the stock crank is set up for 5.94" rods with 305 flat top pistons. Not that I would know anything about that...

And yes I said cast crank. Its the only way to do it cheaply but it does have standard sized journals which is a plus.