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Old 01-25-2012, 02:15 PM
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66 camero 302?,,,,who's chain are you trying to yank? typo right, dont be messing around too much

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so any real ideas please? i know it can be done. i havent done yet but i will.
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I guess there are a number of typos

"taking a 283 block 327 crank and 302 rods."....that would make a 307...if you want a high revver, you want a short stroke.....say a 283 stroke

"now do i bore the block .125 "...Bore your 283 .125, with that 327 crank and you get a 327, why not just start with one?

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Old 01-25-2012, 03:33 PM
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ok i am playing with an idea and would like some input.
taking a 283 block 327 crank and 302 rods. now i would like to see around 500 hp with high rpm on this with no bottle or charger.
ideas?
Hmmmm, If it serve me correct. Are you building a 500HP/307? HAHAHA!!!!

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As I read your post if you use a stock bore 283 with a 327 crank you have a 307. If you bore it out 125 and use a 327 crank, you have a 327. In order to get a 301 its a 4" bore and a 283 crank. These were some screaming little motors. I'd start with a 327 block because a lot of old 283's won't handle a 125" bore. The later blocks seemed to be better. I say go for it.
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Old 01-25-2012, 06:48 PM
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I think the most horsepower you're gonna get out of a 283 and be happy with would be around 300
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:42 PM
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so any real ideas please? i know it can be done. i havent done yet but i will.
You are describing nothing any more exotic than a SJ 307 SBC, friend.

To get 500 HP out of a 307, NA, isn't impossible, after all money in enough quantity can buy most anything, but I can assure you it's a HELL of a lot more daunting than swapping a Gen II SBC into a PU- which is a weekend job at most.

But I'm not telling you anything, what w/you having too many BBC's and all.

But hey- at least this wasn't another "I want to make 500 HP w/my 350 SBC" deal. Just less doable, is all.

BTW, what makes you think you can't rev a 350, or a 377 SBC (4.155" bore x 3.48" stroke)? Or are you one of those guys who thinks a "fast revving" engine makes more power, or ?
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thank you colbalt,
no i know you can get a 350 and others to rev up too. no i just like doing different things, building stuff most people wouldn't do. thinking outside the box is what we do in our shop. I was just looking for ideas as to how to accomplish this task because its something that i have not done before and something nobody really does.
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Thank you Gringo and Brave for you input. i'll put up what i figure out as i build it. then when its done i'll post the dyno out put. before we put it in the car. I was talking to my friend that does all my machine shop work last night and he agrees that it can be done maybe not exactly 500 hp but probably really close. so when we get it all figured out i will post up how to do it. then i'll post videos of it on the dyno and when its in the camaro. i do appreciate all the posotive input. I believe if you can dream it you can do it. it just takes the drive to get there.
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:29 AM
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i just like doing different things, building stuff most people wouldn't do. thinking outside the box is what we do in our shop. I was just looking for ideas as to how to accomplish this task because its something that i have not done before and something nobody really does.
The lack of displacement is the reason you don't see this done naturally aspirated. Having about 1.75 HP/CID will make the engine VERY peaky. To use a vehicle w/an engine built like that as a daily driver will require many compromises just to be "different".

I hope you realize that there aren't 2 guys out of twenty that will recognise the engine as being a SJ, and half of them won't realize it's a 283 block, so for all intents and purposes unless you're there to point out the fact it's a 283 block, no one will know and they'll assume it's another *yawn* 350 SBC. What I'm getting at is you will be the only one in on the secret in most cases.

Most guys are concerned w/budgets- everything takes money, etc. Just yesterday I posted that it takes something like 94 per mile to drive a car that gets 8 mpg using race gas that will cost you about 7.50/gallon. But hey- if you have another car to drive and can afford to have this one as a toy, or can afford the race gas it'll need to drive it on a daily basis plus the other things that require money, then more power to ya'.
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yea its not going to be a daily driver just a toy. and its a bet that is between my body shop guys and my mechanics. loser buys lunch for a week.
Well thank you all for your input and again i will post the restults so you know who is buying lunch lol
but if anyone else has ideas i would love to hear them.
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For some reason, I assumed this gentleman was 17 or younger...well thats what I get for assuming.
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lol no Auto i'm 40 but thank you
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