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Old 03-06-2010, 09:06 AM
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do you know how much power you were making with that

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Ahh the pleasures of seeing a 'dick' on a vacation!!!

If you want cheap, swap meet type of horsepower, then start swap meet attendance. There are way more Chebbies and their parts available tho the SB Ford parts are really starting to show up in the past few years

A 283 Chebbie will probably not see 350hp and neither will the 289 Ford without lots of work and time. Yep, both can do it - but cheaply - no.

Why are you limiting yourself to that CID displacement engine with so many more 350 Chebbies and 302/5.0L or 351 Windsor blocks available. 283's and 289's while made in large lots, were not made any where nearly as long nor in the quantities - with both still available via OEM performance after market sources.

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i am limited to a certain amount of cubes in the offroad racing i am doing
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do you know how much power you were making with that
I will have to find the info on that engine, i know it's here somewhere, But Dave is correct it is gonna cost some bucks to reach your goal of HP. So just how much is your budget anyway?


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I agree......and you b00tz can take 2 weeks of to think about it........and, I am leaving the post as is, so all can see who the dick is.
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i was thinkin about 2500
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Poncho,,,"un-do it" please...
the way I wrote it it definitely could be taken as a very sarcastic opening remark,,,very poor choice of words on my part....
(Jeepracer, it wasn't meant to offend you at all,,,my apology)

b00tz,
I do try to compose with the least number of words possible,,,these threads are read by folks all over the world and American english is a bear to understand...
(these threads stay on the server forever and are on gooogle to help others now and in the future so you are not just answering the OP)

I goof on words choice like anybody so if ya see something that needs correction please do tell me...

if ya want to "vent" or ask me why I posted something send me a PM....

LOL,,,now I will go back and fix/edit it,,,b00tz is correct,,,first line needs to be the last line...

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If you're talking 350HP at the flywheel then a 283 can do it. With 4cc dome pistons for 10.3 to 1 compression with a pair of aluminum L98 heads, a 600cfm carb on a single plane intake and a Comp Cams XS274S cam it just touches 400 FWHP at 6500 in Destop Dyno 2000. With a summit 1107 hydraulic it still makes 386 FWHP @ 6500. It would need a stick and some serious gears and would have a fairly narrow power band but it can be done. I'm sure there are thousands of better combos but that's just a quick and dirty example of what can be done.

If you're wanting 350HP at the rear wheels then that's a different story.

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Seems like your earlier thread asking how to get 500hp out of a 283 on a budget covered most of this. The advice given was to settle for a a more reasonable hp goal like 350. Now you want to compare that to a 289 build. If budget is a consideration IMHO the sbc is the way to go. The 289 was a thin wall casting and won't tolerate much overbore. To get 350 hp and run as you've shown in the video you posted on your earlier thread will be pretty tough to do unless your dad owns a machine shop and you have access to cheap or free quality parts. With no malice intended, I agree with red65Mustang. There are some good publications out there that will give you a better idea of what you're up against. With that said, kudos on aiming high. Go for it!
Poncho- the only way a guy should be called a "dick" is if his name is Richard! It's OK to disagree but do we have to call each other names?
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That's how I learned most of my stuff, from reading books. They helped me from making mistakes. I've got more bad advise from word of mouth than I ever have from hot rod books.
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what motor combo and drive train (details) is in it now???
what rear gears ratio?
what tires diameter?
what is the vehicle weight?
4x4?
pick up truck?
Ford or Chevy?

the tight $2500 budget has to be spent where ya can get the best bang for the bucks.....
because "ALL" the parts have to be power band matched to yeild best possible "real world" acceleration and actual power at the wheels...
(not just the motor)
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Now I remember why I don't come here very often,

Generally speaking, a 289 will make more power than a 283, for one reason, bore. You can safely bore a
289 to 4.040, can you do that with a 283 BLOCK?? Maybe but cylinder walls will be wafer thin, so not
too good for 400hp... If you have a good solid bottom end in the 289, I'd really suggest building a
Boss 289 with the 2V Cleveland heads, a Victor Jr, and 750cfm carb, and a custom ground hydraulic
roller cam...

I can hear the whining and crying already, why? 'cause the heads are too big, the manifold is too big,
the carb is too big...
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That's how I learned most of my stuff, from reading books. They helped me from making mistakes. I've got more bad advise from word of mouth than I ever have from hot rod books.
You can never have enough books.
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i was thinkin about 2500
But can he do this for $2500? I don't think he can with all the machine work and parts needed to achive his goal. Unless he owns a machine shop and is doing all the work his self then i am not sure. You can slap $1500 in a basically stock build with a few upgrades like cam/Intake and carb and redoing the stock heads, But with a decent set of pistons and some major head work or after-market heads i just can't see it happening for $2500. Does anyone else if so please explain in detail the process and parts list and how to achieve this . Then we will really be helping the OP out with his goals.JMO


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Another thing do you have either of these engines on hand or are going to have to buy one?


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