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Old 12-12-2006, 09:58 AM
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29 Ford...Box the frame?

Hi, Guys!
On the 29 Ford truck I'm trying to put together, I'm putting in a flattie and the stock trans from a 52 Ford. With the extra weight of the flattie, etc., is it necessary to box the frame? If so, does it need to be the entire length of the frame, or just where the engine is? The reason I ask is that I'm picturing all sorts of nightmares once it's completely boxed regarding such things, as, say, mounting the steering box. Won't I need some sort of adapter to get from the steering box, THROUGH the boxed frame and to the pitman arm? If it means anything, I'm trying to put this little jewel together just to drive around and put as few new parts on it as possible. I'm on a tight budget and I'm not trying to win any shows or anything. It'll probably more of a rat rod than anything else...
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:16 AM
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I boxed my 31 full length. It does not affect my steering box at all. I am using a 67 Mustang steering box. What steering box are you using? Are you cross steering or side steering?
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Old 12-12-2006, 12:46 PM
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If I were you I'd box it now instead of finding out you twisted your frame a few years down the road.
I dont quite understand what you mean by the steering box giving you problems. Mount it over frame level or under and you'll be fine (Im asuming).


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45 years ago when I put a flathead in my A coupe I used a 32 Ford K member. No boxing was done in my area at that time. I used the book "Ford Speed Manual" published by Floyd Clymer and written by Fred "Bill" Fisher. It was written in 1952 The K member stopped any frame twisting with my relatively stock 48 Merc Flathead. The flathead had a "3/4 race cam" and an Edmunds dual carb manifold and Weiand finned heads. Today it would be cheaper to build a whole new frame than to buy a stock 32 K member.

The problem with using the 32 K member was that if you wanted to remove the tranny you had to remove the engine.
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Many, many V8s were installed in As using 32 K members, chunks of 33-34 X-members OR, surprise,surprise, nothing at all done to the frame to make it stiffer. If your V8 is a stocker or just a mild hop-up, you can do it without boxing. Of course, many guys would change to a 32 or 33-34 steering box or even a 37-41 box turned under like Mustang box, but others lived with the stock A steering.
You can easily fab up a simple bolt-in or weld-in crossmember and X-legs and enjoy your ride.
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:38 AM
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Thanks a bunch!

I appreciate the info, guys! I'm not sure which way I'm going to go on the steering yet (side or cross steer), though as far as a box, I'm trying to finagle the steering box and column from a 55 Ford F-100 at the local junkyard . I'm still in the hummer stage of this build, meaning I'm standing back from my soon to be rod with my hand stroking my chin as my eyes glaze over and all I say is: "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" . I understand I can get more room for headers, etc. if I go with the cross steer, but I'm also trying to do this on a budget, too. So if I can get away with side steer for the time being, well, I probably will. The main thing now is to get the little sucker on the road so I can drive the little jewel around. I'll shake it down, figure out what works for me, and go from there depending on what time and cash will allow... Thanks again!
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