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stackitup_91 11-19-2012 03:29 PM

292H comp cam with vortec heads
 
I have a set of modified Vortec heads, with 292H comp cam the guides have been cut down so It can handle up to a 550 lift cam, and the heads also have been ported and polished, and screw in studs.
I wanted to know have any of you guys ever ran this cam before how did you like the performance out of it, and what are some of the downsides of running this cam. the motor is going in a 84 Z28 with 3.73.. if you could recommend any other cam that would work best with my head's what would you recommend?
the motor is at 10:1 compression and it's a 350 bored over .40.
all responses are highly appreciated

painted jester 11-19-2012 04:03 PM

Ive been running 292s for many years its one of my favorite cams its from around 3000 rpm up is excellent! But below that you may not be happy, I recommend a 4000 stall convertor and hefty gears I run 4.56s it is excellent for a low tunnel ram intake Like the Wyand and 2 650s to 750s on a small block with 10-1 comp and 110 octane fuel! If your a sound type guy it has a very lumpy idle at street idle rpms. This cam I wouldn't recommend for a street driven grocery getter but for a weekend warrior and part time drag car its a great cam! I set my lifters (anti pump up at +.002 lash).

Have fun! Jester

cobalt327 11-19-2012 04:29 PM

I'd recommend short travel lifters. If you should want to 'zero lash' the lifters, or even decide to try running them w/lash like a solid:pain:, be sure to get lifters that have the internal C-clip type retainers (retainer on the left below), not the round wire type (center and right).

http://www.crankshaftcoalition.com/w..._clips_002.jpg

That said, unless you are going to swap out the rear gear and torque converter, use a smaller cam. Someone will be along w/recommendations for that, I'm pretty sure.

What is the rest of the combo- intake, carb, headers, etc.? And how are you going to be using this bad boy?

ap72 11-19-2012 04:55 PM

XE274 and NO BIGGER. Smaller would actually be a little better.

You can go with the 292H but you'll make less power and burn more fuel- it's a losing proposition all around.

the 401A3 by lunati is also a good cam to use if you want to use a solid flat tappet, I'd definitely go solid on this route.

If you can afford a roller cam it gets even better.

vinniekq2 11-19-2012 05:15 PM

moderate cam for someone that is serious

stackitup_91 11-19-2012 05:29 PM

the car would be driven twice or 3 times a week., I have a Edlebrock RPM air gap intake I also have Shorty Hooker Headers which ball 1 5/8, and a 650 CFM Quick Fuel carburetors. I plan on getting a 3000 stall, are my rear end gears too small I was trying to avoid gears taller than 3.73
because the car may get on the highway a few times..

454C10 11-19-2012 05:29 PM

I love the 292H. really nice cam. works well with a 3000 stall and 4.11 gears. Pulls hard to 7000 rpms but makes max power around 6500.

hcompton 11-19-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vinniekq2 (Post 1613321)
moderate cam for someone that is serious

Yeah that is a nice cam. Not sure why everyone says its too big. Its made for radical street motor. Not a race cam but easily good for bracket or weekend racer. I always thought the 294s was one of the best cams had if not the best. But that is solid lift. The hyd. Will run nice as well.

After market alum. Heads would be better for that cam but i dont see a reason it wont make good power if the heads have good flow. Not allported heads flow the same. Many are the same or only a little better than stock. But good flow high compression large cam sounds like you got the bases covered.

Hope your ready for a lumpy cam. Xe cams run a little smoother but just dont seem to last in the larger grinds. If you want a smooth idle from large dual pattern cam go roller.

painted jester 11-19-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stackitup_91 (Post 1613328)
the car would be driven twice or 3 times a week., I have a Edlebrock RPM air gap intake I also have Shorty Hooker Headers which ball 1 5/8, and a 650 CFM Quick Fuel carburetors. I plan on getting a 3000 stall, are my rear end gears too small I was trying to avoid gears taller than 3.73
because the car may get on the highway a few times..

You can tune final ratio with shorter tires! :thumbup: The 1 5/8 shortys may be a little small and kill the scavenging long tube tuned headers would be a much better choice if you budget allows it,
And 3000 stall and 373s should be fine with that intake if you advance the 292 when installed your power range will come in at a little lower rpm it may help with the 373s! and you will lose some of the erratic Idle characteristics (the rumpy sound LOL) It has a 106 center line! I run the 292s retarded! at "0" lash it pulls till close to 7000 rpm with +.002 lash it pulls closer to 7500 rpm with a light valve train and heavy springs! don't skimp on valve train components and get good recommended springs and push rods Stay away from summit brand! and get lifters like Cobalt recommended if your going to fool with different valve lashes at the track! NOT THE STREET:nono::nono: LOL:D

Jester

F-BIRD'88 11-19-2012 06:36 PM

it needs a 3500++stall. if you are going to run it with .002' lash why not just use a solid lifter cam in the first place. The3 xe274H-10 as AP72 suggested is a very good choice for your purpose.

cobalt327 11-19-2012 06:47 PM

↑X3 on the XE274 if I was in the cam recommending biz.;)

ap72 11-19-2012 06:55 PM

HOLY ****!!! Its a Christmas miracle- all three of us agree on something- though I figured F'bird would be partial to the 401A3 cam.

F-BIRD'88 11-19-2012 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ap72 (Post 1613403)
HOLY ****!!! Its a Christmas miracle- all three of us agree on something- though I figured F'bird would be partial to the 401A3 cam.

maybe I'm just imagining this but every time I recomend a cam the price for that cam jumps on Summit's site, within a few weeks. The lunati 401A3LUN would run very nice in this combo.
( you can get it thru Bullet cams too.
The Crane F278-2 is very similar too, on a 114LSA. Another good one for this car.
Another good choice is the comp xs274s-10 if you want a street solid cam.
The Lunati 60141 274 solid Voodoo is another.
All these should work well with the ported vortecs, rpm manifold and shorty headers 3000 stall and 3.73's.

On this car with the shorty headers I would use a flowmaster Y250350 Y pipe to join the two headers , just rear of the transmission, under the car and run a 3.5" main pipe back over the axle with a 3 1/2" in--- out magnaflow muffler mounted behind the rear axle. This 2.5" Y'd to a big 3.5" exhaust will fit the car and is as good as or better than a dual exhaust on this car.
Don;t bother with dual ex on this car.
All cams listed are a better choice than the 292H, for what you specificly got and what you are doing.
http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/se...es/Y250350.jpg

cdminter59 11-19-2012 07:23 PM

292H comp cam with vortec heads
 
I checked a few out a few cams out on CamQuest6, comp cams simualator. First the 292H-2500-6500, .501/.501, 244/244 @ .050, 351hp@5500 & 377@4000 torq. XE284H-2300-6500, .507/.510, 240/246 @ .050, 359hp@5500 & 388 torq. 280H-2000-6000, .480/.480, 230/230 @.050, 351hp@5000 & 400@4000 torq. EX274H-1800-6000, .490/.490, 230/236 @ .050, 358hp@5500 & 405@ 4000 torq. XE268H-1600-5000, .477/.480, 224/230 @ .050, 354hp@5000 & 411@ 3500 torq. Notice that the smaller cams make more torque than the larger cams. With the IVC closing on all of these cams the DCR is 7.6-8.4 which is good for pump gas. These numbers are based on a dual plane and 750 cfm carb. Pocket porting the heads gains around 40HP. Single plane intake and large tube headers can gain 10-15hp each.

68NovaSS 11-19-2012 07:50 PM

I'm with Jester and 454, running an older Herbert 292H in the bucket, 427 BB tunnel ram, 3k stall. Lumpy, yes, but well mannered when tuned right. Being light (1800 #'s) gears aren't an issue and it pulls through 7k, not something I do often... :pain:


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