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Old 07-06-2014, 09:08 PM
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2nd gen ram more trans problems

Ok so after everybody in the world assured me my front input shaft seal was causing my problem I dropped the trans & the seal was fine.Heres whats going on.I hopd in my truck one day & drove a very short distsnce then the truck had no gears.As I poured fluid in the trans it came out of the seap hole @ the inspection cover as fast as I poured it in.While it has trans fluid in it itll shift just fine.Now Im not sure if heat is a problem but when it stops shifting if u let it sit overnite the next day it will shift just fine.
I blew the lines out but even after that the leak was still there.As I said the seal looked like new.Theres a cover / plate that sits in the bellhousing infront of the trans pan I have no idea how to or whats behind it.Does anyone have any idea what I should do next or what look for?Any help would be greatley appreciated.Thank you....95 ram 1500 5.9 360 4x4 46rh trans

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Old 07-06-2014, 09:30 PM
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there is more than one place to look for a leak at the front of the trans in the bell housing area

Did you check bolts?

Did you have the converter checked for cracks? Pressure test is done if obvious crack is not seen.

Was the whole inner bell housing area wet? You can not have the amount of fluid loss with out some evidence trail of oil or the whole inner bell may have been wet.

Did you check the bushing in the pump? As mentioned in previous thread on this trans , the bushing may have moved forward into the back side of the seal
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:49 PM
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i cant figure out how 2 get 2 the pump
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The pump is right after the convertor.

Held in with several bolts.
Where is this cover plate you speak of?


You may not like what I am saying but you are in over your head.

You need help with this.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:34 PM
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I know where its @ Ive undid thr bolts still cant get the cover off.Theres only 2 holes that have threads Ive tryd to thread bolts in through a chain & pull & pry to no avail...I can handle the job I just need 2 kn9w how t9 get it off.
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Slide hammers.
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I got it off it appears this seal is bad.Im guessing this is my problem what do you think?
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Well you need that gasket, an "O" ring and pump seal.

The gasket probably tore upon removal.
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well I hope it didnt get torn from removing because idk what else could be causing the leak as the o ring appears good & the seal looked perfect.Ive been having a real hard time.lately&I live in the middle of nowhere & have no family or friends so I been stuck on the ponderosa just had some issues with my car fixed
it then the motor blew up
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upon pulling the.o ring.I found this..hopefully after.installing new seals&obrings itll be ok.
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You are replacing the metal clad seal too?
Pull the pump apart and look at the bushing.
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Idk nothing about either of those..it sux Im broke & dont.know.nobody 2 help.with this
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IM Not sure if this star piece is sittong right or not &cant tell if anythings ring with the inside of it.Any ideas?
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I would say it is upside down. The wear pattern is different.


Can you show a picture of the seal?
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. The "star" piece/gear ring is the gerotor pump... the star is supposed to be offset... as it turns, fluid enters one side, when the teeth come together leaving no space for the fluid, the fluid is forced into the transmission, which is the pumping action...

. You said it works fine with the fluid in, so the seal is bad, lip torn off it, leaking fluid, and letting the fluid out... put a new seal in... lube the seal lip so it doesn't get dry-torn when the torque converter hub is carefully slid back into it while rotating the converter by hand... rotate converter till the hub's pump drive notches slip all the way down into the pump and over the two nubs inside the 'star' gear......
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