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Like I said before, I have a 302 with a 3.25 cam in '77 pick up. The truck runs great. I actually bought the truck because I wanted the motor. After driving the truck, I'm beginning to have second thoughts about my plan. I planned on restoring the vehicle and just using it as a little get around vehicle. But now, I'm debating replacing the 302 with a 351(if I can find one), and maybe put the 302 in something else. Would it be worth the work to replace this engine? I'm not looking for a dragster, but I want something that I can get a good take off. Any suggestions?

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Old 06-02-2010, 07:26 PM
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My best advice would be....stop dinkin' around with those toy motors and step up. A 460 is a bolt-in. Couple it up to a C6. Every part to convert can be found in the boneyards, including the driveshaft.
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Or a 390 FE?

Tech,several months back you posted a Dyno-Sym on a 390 on Club Hot Rod which was very impressive to say the least.Since the FE was in production in '77 mounts and headers would be EZ to come by,if you have those results on file put them up again.
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Like I said before, I have a 302 with a 3.25 cam in '77 pick up. The truck runs great. I actually bought the truck because I wanted the motor. After driving the truck, I'm beginning to have second thoughts about my plan. I planned on restoring the vehicle and just using it as a little get around vehicle. But now, I'm debating replacing the 302 with a 351(if I can find one), and maybe put the 302 in something else. Would it be worth the work to replace this engine? I'm not looking for a dragster, but I want something that I can get a good take off. Any suggestions?

i may be wrong here but are you trying to say a 3/4 cam, if so that's kinda funny. we still have some old timers around here that say 3/4 cam and full race cam

and i would agree with tech1 and jeffb, find an old FE-390, or 351M or 400, or if you feel really froggy then look for a 460, the 390 or 400 may be a little harder to find but the 351M or 460 should be easy to find. and with the 351M all you have to do is find a 400 crank and you have a 400
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The majority of people I've talked with have said the same thing about the 351. I think I will start checking the junkyards. Maybe I'll get lucky and find something. Where would be my best shot at finding one?
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which 351, the 351W or the 351M, i dont imagin you will be looking for a cleveland. personally i would look for the 351M but that is just my opinion
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Tech,several months back you posted a Dyno-Sym on a 390 on Club Hot Rod which was very impressive to say the least.Since the FE was in production in '77 mounts and headers would be EZ to come by,if you have those results on file put them up again.
Jeff, I didn't save that Sim because Barry from Survival said it was unrealistic. I believe him because he dynos them on the real thing. Here's a torque motor I put together today for this fellow, using factored Eddy heads (advertised flow times 0.95)
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This looks very realistic, remembering what Barry said.
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I say go with more cubic inches you can only get so much out of a small block and that's it. Don't go wasting your coins on it then end up with a big block.
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Ran across a guy who's trying to sell a 460/C6 combo complete from the carb to the starter for $500 bucks. He says it runs and just needs to be installed I'm going to have a friend try to get down there this weekend and check it out for me, if he does'nt get rid of it before then. If so, I get back in the country in six weeks, so there will be others. I was talking with someone and was told that I would have to do alot of work with the suspension on the F100 if I wanted to go up to this combination?
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Your '77 could be had w/a 460 from the factory, all the parts should be available from the 'yards, ebay, etc. 1973-'79 share similar chassis, etc.

There are Ford truck forums that will help, along w/engine SWAP forums, too.
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Don't forget to look into towing yard auctions. You may find a completely usable doner car/truck to use. Butch/junior stocker.
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I did'nt understand that. Can you please explain?
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i may be wrong here but are you trying to say a 3/4 cam, if so that's kinda funny. we still have some old timers around here that say 3/4 cam and full race cam

and i would agree with tech1 and jeffb, find an old FE-390, or 351M or 400, or if you feel really froggy then look for a 460, the 390 or 400 may be a little harder to find but the 351M or 460 should be easy to find. and with the 351M all you have to do is find a 400 crank and you have a 400

lol yeah every now and then i still hear an old guy say 3\4 race cam. i laugh.


and i agree--- go big block.
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"Don't forget to look into towing yard auctions."

Towing companies have to keep impounds for 30 days waiting to collect, after that they auction the cars. Check the local classified ads, they do have to post a public notice before the auction. Yes, you can find some decent buys now and then.

The 390/428 package weighs considerably less than the 429/460 package but either should be an easy swap, neither will get great gas mileage.

Have fun with it.
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I own a 6000# 4x4 with a 351w in it and it gets around just fine and pulls my car trailer..get the later one 96 and up with injection and put that in..Works for me..

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