[Parrot428]

I have a 59 nEdsel Ranger 2 door HT with a tired 292. I wouldd like to replace it with a Ford 302 or a truck 351 engine.
Can anyone tell me how much modifications I will have to do to the motor mounts to use either one of these engines or will they fit the 292 mounts.
jerry

[timothale]

Find a good Ford FE 390 and bolt it in, The 292 mounts work, just turn around, (mabe left to right I don't remember) , Edsels had 332 or 352 optional and some larger edsels also had lincoln engines.

[Parrot428]

The 390 dropping right in sounds good, however I like the 302 qnd 351. Some where I got it in my head that more could be done with the 302/351 engines and more speed eqpt seems to be more avaiable. Shouldn't the 292 mounts work just as well without to much mods. Which engines could I get more power with the lest money. I guess I could have the 390 bored.

[timothale]

The 390's are quite a bit heavier, I did the reverse swap. years ago I bought a $ 25 292 that was crudded up , It took a pipe wrench and cheater bar to turn the distributor, cleaned up the engine scuffed the cylinders, polished the valves then swapped it in and ran it while I bluprinted MY FE, I have seen small blocks swapped into late 50's fords. I don't know about oil pan fit, if there is a problem with early sbf fit. Stock oil filter location, Fuel pump. Small block fords have the oil filter and fuel pump on the left side and sometimes interfere with steering on swaps. I put a 302 into my 83 ranger, options are a remote oil filter with rubber hoses or raise the engine and use a 460 van oil filter casting, fuel pump options early econoline pump from an AC P/S with the "upside down pump" or an electric, Maverick V8 mounts hug the block. and use front to back bolts like chevies. Bronco and 5.0 mustangs have rear sump oil pans if you need one. 351 oil pans are unique -351 only. A friend put a small block chevy in his ranger, it was easier , and I saw a Small block chevy in a falcoln. He said the horsepower was cheaper.

[Parrot428]

Well, looks like I wil e looking foe a 390 FE,but before I do I think I will investigate the possibilies of how much mods I would need to put an engine I have in the garage that I had proffessional built. I also have a 1962Pontiac Safari Wagen. I bought a Pontiac 455CI engine and carried it to Butle Performance and had them to buile it fore me. I won't say how much that cost, but my budget was busted just on heads. The 455 was boec 60 over special Pistons,cam, and othet stuff, blue printed, balance, and stroked. I have been thinking about selling the wagen and that will leave me with this hot engine. I don't know if I am up to the work that installing tis engin would take. So the 390 FE that will bolt right insounds like a better way to go. Does anyone know if the FE could be mdified for some good horese from it?

[cobalt327]

Originally Posted by Parrot428

I also have a 1962Pontiac Safari Wagen.

Now that's cool. We had a '61 when they were relatively new, was my Dad's parts chaser. Warmed over 421 in it, AT.

Here's a neat site w/photos of all the years of Safaris.

[timothale]

428 were more common, harder to find. 427's are even harder to find, but occasionally you can find a 427 in a boat, switch a 390 into the boat and sell it. an old Ford buddy of mine has over 800 horses out of his much modified FE. Check out his Utube, google optima 2009 cobra. and read up on the Club cobra forums, posts as #3170 (Bruce Cambern, retired head of Ford Racing) I now have A ford truck 352 in my Tbucket, 3 2's, Mustang GTA hyd cam. The old pumped 390 didn't like pump gas and ran hot, It had a rare Racing Isky cam, 1.5 rockers, pushrods, dual springs, solid lifters. Isky used 1.5 rockers on FE, Cad, and Olds racing cams until about 62, A good 4 bbl manifold, cam kit and a little bit of head work will wake up a 390' The hot factory 390's put out close to 400 HP in the early 60's