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305 or 350Ci? Please help..

I have a guy trying to sell me a 68 Camaro that he claims has a 350 in it. I snapped a photo of the casting #'s on the engine block near the intake manifold. It looks like it reads 5.0L or in other words a 305. Anyone really know there engines could you tell me what you think of that photo? Thanks a bunch, I've attached it to this post.
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:43 AM
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That, my friend, is a 305 all day long.

I wonder what else he's lying about??
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That, my friend, is a 305 all day long.

I wonder what else he's lying about??
Maybe he's too ignorant to know himself. Could be when he bought it, he was lied too and hasn't figured it out yet. Either way if the price isn't too high, it might be worth a little bartering being you now know it's a 305 and you could get the price down a little. 68 Camaro's are getting hard to find at a decent price and you could always drop a 350 in after you get it.
If the price IS really high and he is out and out lieing, you could put the word out that it's one to stay away from.
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Maybe he's too ignorant to know himself. Could be when he bought it, he was lied too and hasn't figured it out yet. Either way if the price isn't too high, it might be worth a little bartering being you now know it's a 305 and you could get the price down a little. 68 Camaro's are getting hard to find at a decent price and you could always drop a 350 in after you get it.
If the price IS really high and he is out and out lieing, you could put the word out that it's one to stay away from.
I agree Sqz, i wouldn't let the 305 stop me if it's priced right anyway.



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he wants 17000 for it. the 305 is rebuilt and does have some of the bells and whistles. mostly edelbrock headers, intake, etc. new 700R 4 gear auto trans, B&M quick / slam shifter. Body is in above average shape with completely new interior. all electrical works but needs a new fuse box i saw alot of rust on the fuse box terminals. speedometer isn't working, aftermarket gauges installed near the center dash. oil gauge doesn't work on the aftermarket install. water temp and volts do, and the RPM tach works. What do you think on description alone? rear air suspension too.
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he wants 17000 for it. the 305 is rebuilt and does have some of the bells and whistles. mostly edelbrock headers, intake, etc. new 700R 4 gear auto trans, B&M quick / slam shifter. Body is in above average shape with completely new interior. all electrical works but needs a new fuse box i saw alot of rust on the fuse box terminals. speedometer isn't working, aftermarket gauges installed near the center dash. oil gauge doesn't work on the aftermarket install. water temp and volts do, and the RPM tach works. What do you think on description alone? rear air suspension too.
What kind of valve cover bolt pattern does it have? Center bolts or 4 on the lips? Center bolts would be a dead give away to the 305. 4 bolts on the edges might be an HO 305. A run of the mill 68, not anything special, would only be worth 10K or less in my book and that would have to be in very good condition.
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You were wise to do your home work. Most guys do nothing then they get mad they got ripped off afterwards not realizing it`s there own fault.
While it maybe true the guy was told it`s a 350 and maybe he don`t know the difference, or maybe he`s telling you it`s a 350 to pump up the price.
I`ve seen this pulled a 100 times in the past. A guy in my neighborhood had a 305 for sale as I identified it by it`s casting number. Yet he was advertising it as a 350 simply because he was told it was a 350. In the condition you discribe I don`t think it`s worth what he`s asking. You could point out to him it`s confirmed it`s a 305 and if he`ll get right on the price you may do business with him. And Sqz, I`m a bit confused, how are center bolt valve covers a dead giveaway to a 305?
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Sqz, I`m a bit confused, how are center bolt valve covers a dead giveaway to a 305?
Now that I think about it.....................? your right. What was I thinking? Too many Margarita's last night.

What 305 was ever painted GM orange from the factory?
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Centerbolt or not. Does that matter how?

A 305 is a torque mini mouse with the 350 stroke. If you want late 80's vette acceleration a 305 can do. 300hp is a nice mild build for the Vortec 305, but do not expect much more. After finishing up a 305 vortec head swap performer cammer , they can move. Really fool you with a lump of torque. The 305 auto with 3.73 is much more impressive, than the Ford 302 auto with 3.73 rear gear.

350 will give you a easy 375-420hp with out breaking the bank. Will honor respect. Cost no less. It should be the option taken when replacement is needed.
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all electrical works but needs a new fuse box i saw alot of rust on the fuse box terminals. speedometer isn't working, aftermarket gauges installed near the center dash. oil gauge doesn't work on the aftermarket install. water temp and volts do, and the RPM tach works. What do you think on description alone? rear air suspension too.
This is a big warning sign to me. Interesting that the others work, but not the oil gage, the most important one??

Also, why is the fusebox so rusty, did the car spend its life in a high humidity area? Or part of the rust belt? What do the floor pans look like?

Have you driven it at all, how does it ride, shift, brake.

I'd also want to get the car up on a hoist to check the underside well. Bushings, control arms.

This is someones project that they gave up on, dont pay top dollar for it unless its a piece of art.
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