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Old 12-16-2005, 07:24 PM
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Hi, this is my first visit to this site, hope I don't screw it up!! I have a 31 ford coupe with 350 auto. I have existing dual master on firewall. Car stops o.k. but would like to add a power booster. Would a single booster be enough or should I do the double? I am looking at one of the chrome ones with master cylinder incl. I have a porportioning valve mounted just below the master on firewall. I know I will have to replumb the new master to this valve. Is there a place where I can get the s.s. lines already flared? I hear they can be tricky to double flare and seal w/out leaking. Anyhoo, I appr. any info regarding this change over to power boost. I have disc/drum setup.

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You don't double flare stainless brake lines. They are single flared at 37 degrees.
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thanks, I didn't know that.
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Hi, I need some help in knowing how to plumb a new brake booster and master on the firewall of my ford. I have existing dual m.c. on firewall now and car stops o.k. but would like power. I have disc/drum setup with existing prop. valve just below master. I'm looking at one of those chrome ones on ebay that comes with billit style master with 1"bore. My question is can I use the existing p. valve and could I use the flexible type of brake lines to make the connections or get the pre-flared steel lines? Thanks for any info you could give. Allen.
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A 1931 is not a DEUCE coupe........

1932's are a DEUCE



Yes.....I am sure.........

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Looks just like yours only mine has 5 windows. Actually I know the 32 had to the duece but mine is chopped and a two seater coupe, excuuuze me.
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Ford made Deuce 5 windows also.....



There are LOTS of differences between a Model A and a Deuce......
Model A's were on a 103.5 wheelbase
Deuces were 106
Model A's were all 4 cylinders
Deuces were the first V8 .... and a improved 4 ...
Deuces were the first Ford to have a fuel pump, a rear fuel tank, a dropped frame, a grille insert and many other firsts.......

Deuces had a firewall that unbolts....and NO metal outer sun visor......and a cowl vent ....and doors that fit flush.....

You would NOT like someone calling your Model A ....a " T " would you ? Ford made over 4 million Model A's.....and less than 350,000 Deuces. 1932 was the WORSE year of the Great Depression........so while many folks wanted to buy new cars....they were standing in soup lines, unemployed and could only dream about buying a car.........much less a new car......

Model A's can be cool..... ......and more are hotrodded than the 32's.....

As the Moderator.......I put the two brake threads you posted together.....
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Hi, I need some help in knowing how to plumb a new brake booster and master on the firewall of my ford. My question is can I use the existing p. valve and could I use the flexible type of brake lines to make the connections or get the pre-flared steel lines? Thanks for any info you could give. Allen.


This is the way I like to plumb disc/rear brakes. You could use the flexible AN fitting hoses or bite the bullet and BUY a flaring tool, tubing benders and run your own metal lines.



I use one of these kits......it is a Mastercool brand. It is hand operated hydraulic .....and makes very good flares......



Imperial is considered by many to the the industry standard for tube benders....I use them exclusively.....

IF you are going to buy tools......buy the good ones first.....time and money saved in the long run.

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Don't let Deuce get you down it's all in fun, nobody is realy mean in this place we all just like to have fun, Deuce is highly knowledgable and is correct on the plumbing you need.
Hey Deuce my 30 desoto has a rear fuel tank and also what I would call a grill insert? Oop's I forgot mines not a ford.

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Deuce.....no front-rear proportioning valve?

and, are you talking disk/disk or disk/drum?
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Don't let Deuce get you down it's all in fun, nobody is realy mean in this place we all just like to have fun,
30desoto is absolutely correct....
My intent was not meanness........
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I merely wanted to let you know that MOST folks would consider you ignorant if you said that standing around a bunch of rodders....
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If the MC is located on the firewall the following should be used as a guide for plumbing the brakes.

Disk front, Disk rear -

Disk front, Drum rear -

Drum front and rear -
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ss lines/double flare

I agree that stainless lines/AN fittings are 37 degrees, work out very well, I encourage you to do your own. I just wanted to pass along that I purchased a billet remote fill for my master from stainless steel brake corp, and their stainless lines came double-flared. Bill
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Deuce.....no front-rear proportioning valve?

and, are you talking disk/disk or disk/drum?

The photo I posted has a adjustable front/rear bias valve.
Pondskimmer said that he has front disc and rear drums...

I have read about a double annealed Stainless Steel that you can double flare. I have not ever used it. I use a hand operated hydraulic flaring tool. And the stainless is so brittle and hard to flare...........even with the hydraulic pressure. I just use flexiable AN or standard 45 degree double flared tubing from NAPA.....

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The photo I posted has a adjustable front/rear bias valve.
Pondskimmer said that he has front disc and rear drums...
That photo you posted is exactly how I have the lines on my 53 pickup. I used an adjustable bias valve only cause I had one laying around but it does work pretty well. I guess I was too cheap to spring for one of those fancy proportioning valves.
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