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Old 09-09-2007, 07:21 PM
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32 Ford 4 Link Questions

Hello Hotrodders,
For a very long time I wanted to build a Bare Bones Hot Rod. The time has finally come and a 32 5W body sits channeled over a repro frame. Of course everybody has their own specific idea of how a Rod should look. I decided to move the I-beam axle in front of the grille, to lower the car and give it my desired look.
The body/frame is set level at ride hight. (I intend to have the rails as the lowest point of the frame. The Engine and Transmission will be raised accordingly.) I assembled the front end (forged axle, 37-41 ford spindles, finned backing plates and Buick Aluminum drums), attached the wheels and set the assembly to the car (centered and square).
I would like to know how important the length of the 4 bars are, and if they can run parallel to the centerline of the car or if they need to be angled towards the center. I am using Pete & Jakes Batwings (designed for poly bushings instead of clevis pins) and would like to have the pivot points close to the firewall, and at that point the frame has almost the same width as the Batwings.
Your advice and input is greatly appreciated.
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welcome to the board.
The longer bars the better, they can be parallel with the c/l of the car or angled, it doesn't matter. The panhard rod keeps things centered. You didn't say if you were using a leaf spring or what, but a panhard rod is almost always appropriate.

but yes, you are on the right track, it'll work the way you have planned out.

Just make sure you can have about 5-7 degrees of caster when you set up your axle.

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As a long time 32 Ford owner ( see avatar )
and a Moderator here ... I would like to WELCOME you to Hotrodders.com


As Mike stated... the longer the bars .. the better ... to a point.




I use the longest ones I can and still fit under the fenders. If you are going without fenders ... longer is definitely better ... but if you are going to channeled the body ... do not make the bars too long ...



I have some photos of my current 32 project here .... http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/jour...ge=1&reverse=1

They have some chassis photos and other construction stuff going on ...

Again WELCOME

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"32 Ford 4 bar ??

What are you using for your steering box? If you're using a Vega box, as the guys told you, the longer the better. But if you are using something like a f-100 box, then you want the bars to end in line with your pitman arm. Either way, a panhard bar is very wise.

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Good catch on the steering box, Youngster

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32 4 Link, Steering Box

Thanks to everyone for their input.
As far as spring, it is a Mono Leaf. For steering, I was thinking of using a Schroeder Sprint Car Box under the dash with the pitman arm on the side of the body. I guess also in this scenario the radius rod length should match the length of the drag link?!? I haven't spent alot of time to figure out the ratios regarding pitman arm vs. steering arm etc. I will post a picture of my work-in-progress in the next few days.
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It sounds like you are looking at a suicide style front end normally run on a Tbucket for the car.

To each his own, but why spend the money on a duece Repro frame if you are going to channel the body and turn it into a T bucket style chassis?

Running the 32 style frame with a Model A style front crossmember, the mono leaf and a dropped axle should have you pretty low to start with unless you are just going for that way stretched out there look.

Before you go too far you might want to read Brandon Flannery's editorial in the Fall O7 Traditional Rod and Culture Illustrated. It's a one page and you don't necessarily have to buy the magazine just read the editorial. page 8 by the way.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of cookie cutter cars but I do like safe cars that have "The" look and can be driven and driven hard and driven long distances without issues.
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re'32 Ford 4link

With the cowl steering and the channeled body, you're going to have trouble building the drag link as long as the 4 bar. just mount the steering box as far forward in the cowl as you can and the frame mounts for the 4 bar as close to the firewall as you can. Have you already bought the deuce frame? If so, have you cut it yet?

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32 Ford 4 Link

Thanks for the tip on the magazine. I was not familiar with that one. I checked the web site at placed a subscription. As far as the car I agree with
Chopt 48 that it has to perform as well as it looks. It will not be a pavement scraper like you see in some of the magazines. After all, following the guidelines regarding "Scrub Line", the ground clearance is mostly dictated by the tire sidewall. (I opted for skinny, tall radials with a 7" Sidewall.)

Yes, the frame is cut! The spring stays at its stock location. Just the axle sits in front of the grille. I will not hide the grille behind a bulky tube crossmember holding the spring axle assembly.
Again thanks for everyones input.
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