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Old 03-04-2013, 08:22 AM
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no worries i understand. im not the most motor savy person so bare with me. and i really appreciate the help. and wasnt sure if it would stop the smoking it was just a idea that might help even so switching to 10/40 wouldnt cause it not to start right?

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You are correct. Cob had a good question.
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thanks cobalt and spinn i thankyou for your feed back. i will absolutly check the distrbtr for advancement or retardation because the first thing that came to mind was its out of time and then i started to think it might of been the thicker oil. cause once again im not the most motor savy person but i do know you need three things to start a motor fuel, air, spark, oil shouldnt have anything to do with it not starting..
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thanks cobalt and spinn i thankyou for your feed back. i will absolutly check the distrbtr for advancement or retardation because the first thing that came to mind was its out of time and then i started to think it might of been the thicker oil. cause once again im not the most motor savy person but i do know you need three things to start a motor fuel, air, spark, oil shouldnt have anything to do with it not starting..
That might not be your problem but I hope it is because it'll be easy to fix.

FWIW, ignition timing is strange sometimes. You'd be surprised how far from correct the timing can be, and the engine will stay running- and seemingly running fine. But once it's shut off, no way will it restart.

Anyway, good luck.
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the oil on my dip stick smells like gas is that from excesive cranking or something much more?
be careful not to wash away the compression.put new plugs in the engine and get that timing light out like I said
check timing,even while cranking
check each wire with timing light to see if they are firing
if the exhaust smells bad,check the gas hasnt spoiled
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ok so let me get this streight cuz i never delt with timing before. so if the timing mark on the pully lines up with 0 it should be tdc. where should the rotor inside the dis be pointing and to adjust do i just turn the rotor or do i upbolt the mounting bracket and pull the shaft out and then turn and place back?
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ok so let me get this streight cuz i never delt with timing before. so if the timing mark on the pully lines up with 0 it should be tdc. where should the rotor inside the dis be pointing and to adjust do i just turn the rotor or do i upbolt the mounting bracket and pull the shaft out and then turn and place back?
Do not remove the distributor!

You need a timing light, but you can set it by eye close enough to start it by setting the timing marks to TDC, then see that the rotor is a little before the terminal. "Before" means the rotor will be a little CW of the terminal w/the engine at TDC. Depending on what cylinder is on compression stroke, the rotor might be pointing near #1 or #6- but it doesn't matter, as long as the rotor is before the terminal a little.

You adjust the timing by turning the distributor body, not by removing it and resetting.

But if the distributor is not loose, it's going to most likely be something else, like the timing chain, fouled plugs, bad wires, etc. Do you have points in this or an HEI?.
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at tdc take the cap off and see if the rotor is pointing at the number one spark plug.you get 2 tries at this as the rotor turns 1 times per 2 crank turns
If ok,crank engine while using timing light,it should fire somewhere around 12,engine should start .change your plugs and try to start engine
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well there is no play on the distrbtr shaft because of a mounting bracket to the manifold so would i have to unbolt and then turn or just turn the rotor to the correct position. any ideas on where thing should be because i dont know what to look for as far as where the rotor should be under the cap when set to tdc..
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well there is no play on the distrbtr shaft because of a mounting bracket to the manifold so would i have to unbolt and then turn or just turn the rotor to the correct position. any ideas on where thing should be because i dont know what to look for as far as where the rotor should be under the cap when set to tdc..
Can you reach in and turn the distributor the way it sits right now, w/o loosening anything? If the distributor will not easily turn, it's doubtful the timing is at fault.
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i believe its points. so i will set the pully mark to 0 and check if the rotor is pointing to the #1 spark plug if not turn the distrbtr body until a lil past the terminal? or the just the rotor? sorry just trying to make sure i understand correctly..
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Last try: CAN YOU EASILY TURN THE DISTRIBUTOR WITHOUT LOOSENING ANYTHING? In other words, if you take hold of the distributor cap, can you easily turn it CCW?
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distrbtr cap

so the distrbtr doesnt budge, i pulled the cap off by turning it ccw and there is no visible mark or arrow on the rotor but i believe its pointing at the front left of the motor. when i pulled the cap there seems to be a considerable amount of condensation inside. i will def clean it out and let dry. so if there is no mark on the rotor i can tell if its point to the #1 or #6 plug judging weather if its a lil before the terminal? does that sound right?
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so judging by the lil metal pressure tab on the top of the rotor that sits on the top of the inside of the cap the open end is pointing to the front left of the motor just a lil past the terminal with the wires connected to it and has a contact to the inside of the rotor. is this correct
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distrbtr

and no the whole distrbtr body doesnt move just the cap turns to pull it off with spring pins holding it on.
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