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Old 03-04-2013, 10:26 AM
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distribtr cap

thankyou every body for your advise and having pacience for my lack of motor knowledge but u gotta learn some how and what better way then from experienced people who have alot more years under ther belt then i.
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and no the whole distrbtr body doesnt move just the cap turns to pull it off with spring pins holding it on.
OK, the dist. is not loose in the engine. Careful to not damage the cap twisting it- use a screwdriver to remove.

If I'm reading correctly, it sounds like the rotor is correctly pointing towards #1, but to really tell, make a mark using a sharpie on the distributor body that is in alignment w/the #1 terminal of the cap. That will make seeing the relationship between the rotor and the terminal easier to see.

On the photo, I chose an easy to see terminal to call #1. You are to use the terminal that's connected to the #1 sparkplug, where ever that may be on the cap. Usually #1 on the cap is pointing roughly towards the driver side front of the vehicle.



Double check the firing order if there's any chance it was moved. Be especially sure about #5 and #7 being swapped- they're most often the two that will be wrong.

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ok the rotor is sitting just past the #1 terminal on the rotor cap

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ok the rotor is sitting just past the #1 terminal
That's where it belongs, if "after" is where I described above.

Is the firing order right?

You mentioned wetness/condensation inside the cap- that's enough to keep it from starting, especially w/a points ignition. Dry it out thoroughly. Use a hair dryer if you have one.

You need to see if the plugs are firing. After drying out the distributor and cap, replace the cap and rotor, then remove a plug and ground the outside metal case of the plug to the block, then crank the engine over. You should see a blue spark at the gap. Don't hold the plug w/your hand or it'll shock you. Use a jumper cable or clamp, etc.
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From what has been said now, you had tried cranking a certain amount and have flooded the engine cylinders and enough so to go into the crank case. The distributor, if you haven't loosened the clamp down bolt and the body of the distributor is tight and won't turn as was previously mentioned, Don't Touch it at this point. If the cap is wet up inside like a rain forest, that is most likely your main problem and take a clean paper towel and carefully wipe inside the best you can as there may be dirt residue also which is good to get rid of and then if you have compressed air, blow out the remaining moisture. Put the cap back on and make sure all the spark plug wires are still seated into the cap along with the coil wire at each end. Then give it a try but don't go cranking too much if it wont fire up. The plugs may be too fouled up and also would have to check for spark and timing to make sure all those things are correct. If your battery has run down, put a charger on it or boost the car as it will need more help after being flooded out like that. After all is said and done assuming you do get it fired up, warm it up a bit and then drop that oil and filter ... you don't want that gasoline sitting in your oil.

I see additional posts were added before mine sent out and zero in on what Cobalt is showing you.
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well based on the fireing diagram it appears the rotor is pointing to the #2 plug on the motor (passenger front) but is in line with the #1 plug on the cap wich goes to the #1 plug on the motor( driver front)
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firing order

the firing order appears to be right all plug wires line up with the diagram cobalt sent me. im going to gently clean the moisture and the dirt out of the cap and place back over the rotor and look for a spark while cranking it over.
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well based on the fireing diagram it appears the rotor is pointing to the #2 plug on the motor (passenger front) but is in line with the #1 plug on the cap wich goes to the #1 plug on the motor( driver front)
Remember- as long as the firing order is correct, it doesn't really matter which terminal is #1. It can be any of the eight positions, as long as the firing order is followed.
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Did you trace the #1 wire back to the cap? This is first on tdc compression stroke. Are they in order going around the cap terminals?
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ok thanks just wasnt sure if the rotor was pointing at the wrong part of the motor. got the cap clean and now im going to put it back on. fingers crossed fellas...
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WELL SHE FIRED UP!!! Thank you guys so much i couldnt have done it with out the great advise and i learned some great tips for the future and thank you for your pacience so CHEERS!! to you... BiG thumbs up beers are on me... ill post some pics here soon so everyone can see her in all her glory, Again thank you. SENCERLY... 64 CHEV STEP...
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Northern Chevy for the win (post #4). Good call, NC!
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broken bolt in head

yep (spinn) everything is all in order as far as the spark wires going back to the cap. just changed the oil again and changed the plugs. now going to run a timing light to see where she sits. next i gotta bleed the brakes and find a way to get a bolt out that i broke the head off of for the valve cover, its not leaking yet but its just a matter of time before it does and i have no easy outs.. any ideas? i got a drill and some bits but that might be risky in fear of damaging the top of the head where its threads into...
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yep northern chevy nailed it with post #4 (water and or moisture in the distrbtr cap) great call and thanks again im all smiles.
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See it there is material left under the gasket and cover flange. If no, try 3 things.

1Can tap a pointed punch around in a circle ccw at the perimeter outside of the broken stud. Work it , tapping, around.

2DRill a center hole in the broke stud. Then tap a punch into the hole, grab punch to turn stud ccw.

3Drill out broken stud rethread hole with tap if you need.
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