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Old 06-01-2006, 10:00 PM
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34 coupe hood lacing

I'm working on a customers repro 34 ford 3 window coupe. I need to install the stock lacing and bumpers on the cowl and repro grill. ( the bob Drake repro '34 grill is a really nice part) This is on a fiberglass body so there are no holes or any indication of where they should go.
I bought the bumpers and lacing from bob drake. I called the tech line and the tech guy had no idea. I looked in my green bible and a whole stack of catalogs but came up with nothing that has a good pic. If anyone has some pics of a stock cowl and side cowl with the lacing and bumpers installed it would be a great help. The lacing on the grill at the top where the radiator cap goes would be helpful also. Does it bend around that corner at the front or is it mitered of just butted together? I am trying to make this installation appear somewhat authentic otherwise I would just guess.
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the cowl lacing starts 2" from the center at the top because of the hood hinge bracket. there is a screw right there to hold the lacing. then 10" away is the next screw (on an original there is a "dimpled" area where the screws would be ), then 6 1/2 " to the next screw. the next screw will now be on the side in-line with the cars belt line (7" from the previous screw).from the belt line down are 3 more screws 6" apart to the end of the lacing. total-7 screws each side.
the bumpers are at each corner of the hood sides. FYI, some rods do not use them, the lacing will be enough.
the radiator shell lacing again starts next to the hood hinge pivot & follows the curve of the shell. some installers cant/wont spend the time to make the lacing curve so they make a 45 joint. the holes in the shell will be where the screws go to hold the lacing.
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34 hood lacing

That is great to know especially on fiberglass bodys. Does anyone know a source for door rubber seals for a fiberglass body? I've heard that the body manufacture makes a difference but I don't know the original manufacture of my body. Thanks
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Thanks FASTFORD for taking the time to go and measure your car and reply. The screw schedule is indeed helpful . I had a feeling that the grill shell lacing can be curved around the corner where the radiator cap area intersects the top lateral portion of the grill. I will endeavor to make it curve. I still have 1 question though, is the lacing installed close to the cowl where the cowl/hood gap would be, or is it an inch or so away, more towards the front of the car? It seems as though the 4 bumpers that are about 1/2" high fit better in the 4 relieved areas in the cowl, between the lacing and gap. I will take a picture of the lacing and bumpers where it looks like they should go and maybe you could confirm for me. Thanks again.

garyroushkolb - Soffseal, http://www.soffseal.com/
and Metro,http://www.metrommp.com/
are 2 companies that make universal seals and weatherstrips. They have numerous sizes designed to fill whatever gap you have. You can find seal profiles on their websites,along with measurements. I usually take a little modeling clay and put it inbetween the door and doorjamb. shut the door, open it and measure the clay to see how big the gap is. Select a weatherstrip that is just a little bigger. The 3/16" hollow "D" type seems to work pretty well on the majority of the perimeter of the door, while there is a larger profile that looks like a "C" that works on the lower section. Bob drake and CW moss have the stock weatherstrip that doesn't do alot to keep the outdoors outside of your car. Poli-Form has put together a set for their 34 coupe using soffseal weatherstrip. It has several profiles selected to fill the various gaps that exist on their 34 doors. That set may or may not work on your car, depending on how big the gaps are. Some glass bodies are tighter than others.
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Hi. your welcome as it is no trouble.
the cowl lacing is indeed 1" in from the edge of the hood
(that is to the center of the screw hole if possible) or cowl relief area for the hood.
on an original, those 1/2" bumpers were used on the inner fender, hood lip recess,1/3 third from the front edge & 1/3 third from the back end of the hood.
sorry, i forgot about those in my 1st reply.

this is just a suggestion. after some time the lacing ends start to fray or unravel. on some rods, they have made an end cover for the lacing to prevent that & clean up the look on the end of the lacing. i need to do this cause i think the lacing on my ride looks crummy at the ends.

glass cars will usually need a smaller rubber seal than an original. as stated, soffseal is considered the best. contact the body manufacturer for the suggested size (thickness) needed. i think Outlaw Performance has their own rubber seals that may fit others.

just so others may know, there are a few glass car manufacturers that need same as original seals. Wescott is 1, their cars are very close to original dimensions.

i hope i answered all your questions. if not, ask away & i`ll do my best to get the answer for you.
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Thanks again, fastford you answered all of them
I checked out your photo gallery. Nice Coupe! I sure got a soft spot for cleveland motors. I'm building a 70 4v for my wifes mustang. I have 1 more I can put together for something else. The 33 in my shop is getting a 4v cleveland also. WHOO HOO!
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