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Old 10-03-2002, 03:55 PM
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Check out <a href="http://www.chevy350engines.com" target="_blank">www.chevy350engines.com</a> there are several combinations you can choose from. I'm doing an '82 long bed pick up with a new motor and I found that Scoggin Dickey is the cheapest on performance parts, I know hard to belive.
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i just recently bought an elderbrock power package from jegs, and i hate to say this i hated it, it ****ing sucked. it awsome power but fades and wears away quickly and the carbs are nothing to be happy about. Go for the holley set ups, they are definatly well worth the money and cheaper. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[nono]" />
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that's surprising thats the first time i've ever heard anyone complain about this set up. maybe you should post on this and see if something else might be wrong.

as far as l31's go they can only take .491 lift w/o work on seats/guides

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to twisted: exactly what is wrong whit edelbrock carb? is it afb or qjet copy? i`ve had an carter 750 afb(same as edelbrock,only cheaper) two or three yrs now and i`m very happy whit it. it offers much more tuning capabilities than holley. or is that the problem?
And if you feel that power is fading away,it`s only normal drive some stocker couple of weeks and your engine feels wonderful. or cam is wearing away and thats because improper run in.
actually i like comp cams products because those cams have more degrees @050 if total degrees are kept same
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i had abd experoiences with elderbrock, ever carb of theres i had the valves wore out to quick on them. not to mention the jet settings never worked. you change the jets and it would go right back to were it was after a few seconds of run time. and no i dont drive my vechiles hard only atvs and motor bikes i baby my camaro. i can just say im happy with holley.
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Holley is my preference too, but I'm curious, in what ways are an Edelbrock or Carter more tuneable than a Holley? This is an honest question.
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The edelbrock carb is very simple in my book, it's not more tuneable than a holley, it's just a different type of carb, and some people are more comfortable with what they are used to. I have always messed with Q-Jets and Thermoquads, and I like them on a budget, but some people hate them because they have no experience with them.
Any of the popular carbs will get the job done, but any carb has to be tuned for max performance and or mileage.
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I didn't think they were any more tuneable, but I'm always willing to listen and learn something new.
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Our friend here in Houston still has five years before his 20 year old truck will not need to be emission inspected.
The standards in Houston(Harris County) just got stiffer and will soon apply to the 5 surrounfing counties. We've already got the 55MPH limit and so do the surroundings.
Texas is not the lenient land it once was. These silly restrictions, of course, do not apply to the whole state, just selected metropolitan areas and their surroundings.
The saver for us is cars and pickups 25 years old and older do not have to be tested for emissions. This is a sliding scale so each year another batch of rolling junk is saved as well as those of us who maintain our vehicles.
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Hey man, emissions are a concern, but how often do you get pulled over for emissions, I'm from Detroit, and up here I can throw 528 Hemi in a E class Mercedes Benz and no one would be the wiser.
If you want some inexpensive power, go to your local Gm parts dealer, get a set of L-31 Vortec Iron heads, these heads flow at 231cfm on intake and 180cfm on exhaust @28in. H.g. however with you stock pistons, your compression ratio with these heads will be about 10.3:1, because of the smaller combustion chambers. Even an old-school L79 'vette cam will wake up your tired mill to the tune of 340-370 gross ponies. Ofcourse you will need headers, which may be a problem if you want to run stock accessories. Edelbrock sells the correct intake manifold for these heads. They have the new style 8-bolt design very different from say an 882 casting. Switch over to an old H.E.I. distributor and a old Quadrajet, or step up to something like a road demon. A 650cfm carb will do the job. bigger isn't always better, oH, and make sure you get a good torque converter if you are running a more radical cam, remember with these factory heads you are limited to about .480" of valve lift. so don't go crazy, you've got to run your power brakes to0.
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First,sorry about mis spelling but if i write in finnish you wont understund a word! vai mita?
in holley you can`t change low vacuum enrichment,only when it comes,not how much. in AFB its possible to tune how much and when it comes.I have experience with holley,afb and Q-jet. holley gives easiest performance and takes most gas to do it.(lost pistonrings because of that,they dont like too much gas) here 95 oct costs approx 4,4usd/gallon so you dont want waste it...
edelbrock base tune gives allmost similar a/f ratio but its easy enuf to change leaner or ritcher
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Whew!, $4 a gallon, I think I would convert to C.N.G (propane)! That's an interesting point you have there about the power circuit. I think I'll look into that, more power and less fuel consumption is something we'll all have to consider one day, for a daily driver anyway. I really think the answer lies in computer control fuel injection. I read an article about SAAB and thier variable compression engine, yeah the head actually tilts! And what about variable valve timing, I was working on an Alfa Romeo that had a centifigul (advance?) on the intake cam sprocket. Definately something that can be adapted to say, the small block Chevy. There's other things too, like variable profile cams. check out <a href="http://www.howstuffworks.com" target="_blank">www.howstuffworks.com</a> and go to the automotive forum and then how camshafts work, check out what Ferrari does to achieve this. It's even better than Acura's version! Talk about the best of both worlds, if we just adapt this kind'a stuff to our large v-8s it would be awesome!
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Propane (and other possibilities) are taxed so high it doesnt get any cheaper anyway(already checked that).diesel is cheaper but it doesnt just fit in 72 el camino... gm has also done variable timing but its l6. funny that sbc doesnt have some aftermarket version already. it would widen torque band pretty nicely.
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