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Old 11-18-2002, 06:15 PM
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this may sound dumb, I own a 1969 Galaxie 500, the man I bought it from said the motor was a 351 clevland factory for that yeah, how do I really find out? Because all the factory stickers are gone, can someone help me please? Is there an easy way to tell?

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Valve cover bolts...

Windsor family (289, 302, 351) have 6 valve cover bolts, 351M and 351C have 8, FEs have 5, 429/460 have 7 bolts.

I think the Windsor the water neck goes into the top of the intake, on a Cleveland and M it goes into the front of the block.
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No. No. Nononononono. The Windsor thermostat housing bolts on the very front not top at the front, the front, of the intake manifold. The Cleveland bolts on top of the intake at the front. The Windsor has petite, slim valve covers, while the Cleveland has things that will remind you of great-aunt Bertha. Fat. I sold those cars new and there was no Cleveland 351 option until 1970. So either the seller mis-stated the year or the engine size. Here is a VIN decoder for 1969 full-sized Ford cars;

<a href="http://www.lovefords.org/Vin/ford/6069/1969.asp." target="_blank">http://www.lovefords.org/Vin/ford/6069/1969.asp.</a>

You could have a 429 2V engine in there. That wasd a very popular option then. Or a 390. Or even a 289. But no 351's were available in the large cars in that year.
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Well, I'm glad you were here to correct me.
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[quote]The Cleveland bolts on top of the intake at the front.<hr></blockquote>

The Cleveland has a dry intake manifold. The thermostat housing is in the front engine cover.

-Quick Reference For Windsor/Cleveland-
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[quote]You could have a 429 2V engine in there. That wasd a very popular option then. Or a 390. Or even a 289. But no 351's were available in the large cars in that year.<hr></blockquote>

The 289 was discontinued during the 1968 model run. You meant 302 didn't you? And when you say no 351's were available, you meant Cleveland's, not Windsor's, right?

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Post your vin and I can tell you what was in it from the factory. Unless it's been changed that should be what you have.
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