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Old 09-02-2010, 02:03 PM
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Hi there

Got some pictures already, , will take as I go along.

Will need to get some more instruments to take measurements, got a good virnear (spelling...) at least.

Stupid question, does anyone have a complete part list that I will need to buy considering my starting point (being block, crank and con rods).

Big thing now is to start compiling the shopping list.

E4AE - 84, AE=> originally in a car.

Carb: EDELBROCK THUNDER SERIES AVSŪ 650 CFM, CARBURETOR
Intake Manifold: Edelbrock RPM Air - GAP
Head: AFR with 2.02 valve -> note Piston with notch !
Ignition: MDI
Coil: MDI
Water Pump, Oil Pump, Fuel Pump: Edelbrock

Pistons: Ross or Keith Black or CE or JP (thinking high Comp)
Rings:
Bearings:
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Tappet Cover: Black, Ford Racing:
Ignition leads:
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Air Filter: K&N
Bolt Kit: ARP

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Any cam you bolt into the motor has an operating range of about 3500 rpm's. In other words, a cam might be effective from idle to 4200 or it might be from 1500 to 5000 or it might be 3000 to 6500 or it might be 4500 to 8000 or whatever. You are considering high compression. High compression requires a cam with more duration that will put it into the higher rpm range for effectiveness.

Although not scientific, I'll share some figures with you concerning the compatibility of static compression ratios and camshaft durations measured at 0.050" tappet lift...

8.00:1 SCR needs 185 degrees..500-4000 power range
8.25:1.................189..............650-4300 " "
8.50:1.................194..............800-4500 " "
8.75:1.................200..............900-4600 " "
9.00:1.................204............1000-4600 " "
9.25:1.................208............1200-5200 " "
9.50:1.................212............1600-5400 " "
9.75:1.................216............1800-5600 " "
10.00:1................221............2000-5800 " "
10.25:1................227............2400-6200 " "
10.50:1................233............2800-6400 " "
10.75:1................236............3000-6800 " "
11.00:1................240............3200-7000 " "
11.50:1................244............3400-7200 " "
12.00:1................248............3600-7400 " "

Like I said, this list is not definitive. I wrote it to provide an overview of what cam is needed with what static compression ratio and what the operating range will be with that cam and that static compression ratio. This will change some depending on engine size and camshaft type, lobe separation angle, etc., but generally it is better than what we have had to work with up to this point, which is nothing as far as I know.

Anyway, back to topic. You said you wanted to build high compression ratio. I just wanted you to see the ramifications of such a decision. Using a very high SCR requires quite a bit of cam to prevent running in detonation and quite a bit of cam changes the operating range of the motor out of the realm of street running and into the realm of a racing motor.

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Hi there
Thanks for the reminder, as you must have realized I totally forgot bout this little fact... was not planning a Cam change.

Will have to do some thinking, would prefer a power range low ... 1500 -> 5500/6000
i'd like to see around 400HP, maybe 450, hay of course 450 would be nice, i don't want to build a all to the max, they just end in tears sooner or later, be that because they exploded or there is no money left in the bank.

suggestions on cam.. maybe something from AFR to match the heads and what would you suggest piston and rings wise.
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Old 09-04-2010, 05:49 AM
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A question more on Parts/Brands.

Firstly: Does anyone have a pdf workshop manual for a 351W?

It is easy to see that if I want to buy a complete top end kit, pre selected by people allot more clever than me Edelbrock stands out.
Is there anyone else doing complete kits like Edelbrock?

Looked and seen the AFR heads/looks good,

Who is another good Head producer
Who is another good Intake Manifold producer

Everyone I've spoken to says Keith Black Pistons,
Most of the designs i've seen for around 400HP, all recommend a 9.5:1 compression Ratio for the 1500-6000RPM range.
Carb is pretty much either Edelbrock or Holley

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