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Old 03-17-2009, 08:45 PM
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i am trying to get my boss to find me one maybe for free
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Let's go back to square one. In the first place, if I were building a street/strip small block Chevy, I would not be starting with an early 2-piece seal, flat tappet block. Chevy began producing one-piece seal, roller tappet motors in '87 and I have seen the blocks for sale for $100 or less, some complete with dog bones and spider, some even with the lifters for that money.

I also would not be trying to build an 11:1 or 10.5:1 motor if I had to run it on pump gas swill. You can make plenty of power with 9.5:1 to 10.0:1, using a streetable cam and operating off pump gas with no problems.

I also would not be using 6 inch rods. Their length puts the wrist pin up into the oil ring land and you have to use filler spacers in the pin bores to provide support for the rings and to prevent the ends of the oil rings from falling back into the pin bores if they rotate around the piston (which they will).

Roller block, L31 heads, 9.5:1-10.0:1 static c.r., 0.035"-0.045" squish, hydraulic roller cam (good to about 6200 with roller hydraulic lifters before they pump up) with around 230 degrees duration @ 0.050" tappet lift, Scat cast steel crank, Scat 5.7" I-beam capscrew rods.

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what kind of power would that make
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http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/pts/1078147621.html
http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/pts/1080789584.html
http://orlando.craigslist.org/pts/1069554015.html
(86-94 350 by the casting number. May or may not be finished internally for roller cam, but is a 1-piece rear seal. Pull the intake. If it's all still there and a roller motor, it should have the spider, roller tappets and dog bones.)
http://orlando.craigslist.org/pts/1038631759.html
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what kind of power would that make
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350 block bored 0.030", decks cut for 9.011" block deck height. With 9.001" stack, this leaves a piston deck height of 0.010". Keith Black hypereutectic pistons #KB120. Top ring gapped at 0.027", second ring at 0.018". L31 heads from Scoggin-Dickey, part #SD8060AAG. Includes RPM Air Gap Vortec intake, heads modified for 0.525" lift, assembled with 1.94"/1.50" valves, springs, retainers, keepers and seals, head gaskets, head bolts, intake gaskets, stamped rail rockers (1.5) and 12-point intake bolts. Specify 10105117 head gaskets (0.028" compressed) when ordering. Use 750 VS carb of your choice along with 1 3/4" long tube, equal length headers.

Static compression ratio 10.3:1, squish 0.038".

Compcams 12-238-2 Hydraulic flat tappet Extreme Energy. 262/270, 218/224, 0.462"/0.469", 110, install advanced 2 degrees.

RPM HP TQ
2000 158 416
2500 205 430
3000 256 448
3500 308 463
4000 355 466
4500 391 457
5000 423 444
5500 432 412
6000 407 356
Long, flat torque curve.

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350 block bored 0.030" and decked to 9.018". Stack will measure 9.008", piston deck height will be 0.010".

Crank and 5.7 rods of your choice. KB hyper pistons KB197/030. Compression height 1.433".
http://kb-silvolite.com/performance....etails&P_id=94

L31 Vortec heads from Scoggin-Dickey. Modified with 1.250 single springs for 0.525" lift. Part #SD8060A2, $339.95 each. (price may be different by now, quoting out of my 2008 SD catalog). GM 10105117 head gaskets. Rescue a set of low-miles rail rockers from a boneyard, along with the valve covers and intake manifold bolts. '96-'98 Chevy truck with 5700 Vortec motor. Look for sawtooth pattern on the front of the heads.

CompCams hydraulic flat tappet part #12-213-3, grind #292H-10, 292/292, 244/244, 0.501"/0.501", 106/114/110, timing @ 0.006" 40/72/80/32, timing @ 0.050" 12/48/56/8. Installed straight up. Comp's description of this cam:
HYDRAULIC-3000+ Stall in heavy car with 10:1+ compression. BINGO.

1 3/4" long-tube, equal-length headers of your choice, such as Hooker #2116-1HKR, Super Comp. Header, 6475 Chevelle/Malibu/El Camino/Caballero/Sprint/Wagons, 74 Full Size: 265400, Full Length Tube 1.75" O.D. x 31", Collector Size 3" O.D., Collector Length 10", Port Shape: Same As Port, Metallic Ceramic Coating.

Professional Products Crosswind Vortec high-rise, dual-plane intake manifold #52028 (satin). $172 on ebay (item 330295109276). 750 carb of your choice. Check out ebay stores such as this for good value on rebuilt carbs....
http://stores.ebay.com/Carburetors-and-More
I have no commercial connection with this store and know nobody there, it's just the first one I came to when I was lookin' for a 750 carb.....

10.3:1 SCR, 8.38:1 DCR, 0.038" squish.

RPM HP TQ
2000 145 382
2500 191 400
3000 241 422
3500 300 450
4000 353 464
4500 403 470
5000 439 461
5500 450 427
6000 421 368

There, a 450/470 motor with iron production heads. Not bad.
I hope this helps.
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what would be the specs on the 383 with some better heads such as brodix track 1s or some afrs
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