385ci/ 700r4 / 3k stall / 4.10 gears

ah yes the Lunait voodoo cams, i did look into them and i called both lunati and comp with all my info and plans here is what they said:

lunait= did not recomend the 284/292 voodoo cam but did recomend the 276/284 voodoo

comp= did not recomend the XE274 but did recomend the XE284

both said not to run the 1.6 rockers until well after i had borken in the cam, then comp said i would be okay after that, but lunati still didn't like the idea very much given the aggressive ramp rates

i read a tech article between two head techs about the Dart iron eagle heads and the new Dart iron eagle platinum heads, and yes by what they said as well as the Stan Weiss cyl head flow data table these numbers are correct for the Dart heads, but i have heard that AFR did redo alot of there heads and i do think that the #'s i gave you earlier are old cause i recall an article i read in master engine builders about a 383 with the street 195's and they flow benched them before hand (untouched) and they flew around the mid 270's@ .500 but that still isn't enough to warrent buying the AFR's over the DART's, unless your hell bend on getting alluminum heads

as far as the 700R4, i really want to run it, but dont want to spend too mush to get one to handle the power, i have master kits for around 450.00, and i know a good drag racing trans guy who say's he'll rebuild just about any carry in for 350.00, i have found an aftermarket 700R4 that will hold 500hp for 1200, but the master kit for 450.00 is the same thing, (same company, same parts in the trans)

not sure what i should do


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It is tough about the transmission. I have a turbo 400 in my car now, but if I could have afforded a 700R4 that would handle 600 ft lbs, I would have gone with it.

I would be a little hesitant to go the inexpensive route. It just seems that you usually get what you pay for. Here is the transmission I was looking at. It is really expenisve but it is rated for 700 ft lbs of torque. Look at the mega raptor.

http://www.transmissioncenter.net/highperf700r4.htm

Adam

i know of them and they are very popular, but another company out there is starting to get a lot of popularity for building a good 700R4 as well, Monster Transmissions, since looking into them i have heard a lot of really good things, and they have a transmission, mega monster, that would compare to the stage 2 raptor but for about 700.00 less, i looked into the rebuild kits for each company and patc has the kit for 932.00 with up to a 2800 stall and free shipping, and then monster has the kit for 525.00 but no stall and shpping extra, bit if you look at a monster 3000 stall it's 325.00, which would equal 850.00 with the kit, im then shipping is likely 50-100.00 bucks and this would put me right in line with the patc kit, so if monster can charge 1200 for a complete trans with these parts in it why does patc charge 2000 for the same thing with the same parts ? is their labor that expensive

I dont know. It may be a good question to ask them. If the extra cost is justified, they should not be offended by the question.

Adam

does any one have an opinion on this

PTC has the goods for a durable trans. It just going to cost you a couple of limbs. I have bought parts ($$$) from them in the past but sure would like one of those mega raptors all done up. Don't know anybody has one of tyhem so have nothing to go one but how long ago I first made a purchase, and they're still around.

i know that patc has good quality parts, and from monsters rep they do to, i just dont understand why you could order the stage 2 kit, which has everything in it that the raptor stg 2 trans has in it + up to a 2800 stall + free shipping (which means that they are still making plenty of money on the deal that they dont mind paying the shipping cost) for 938.00, but yet if you buy the stage 2 trans from them it will cost you 2000.00 is the core and the labor really worth all that money, a 700r4 core is only about 150.00, so then they are still charging over 900.00 for the labor of building the transmission, monster transmissons has a very well known 700R4 as well with the mega monster, or even the SS mega monster, you buy the kit for 525.00 then you buy a stall for another 325.00 putting you at about 850.00 (similar to patc price's) then you have a core 150.00 =1000.00, then you can buy the mega monster for about 1200.00 that is about 200.00 labor (that is pretty cheap, but i know they make more than that) both kit's have basicly the same products in them (i checked them off one at a time) why can patc charge so much for a trans

sorry i just got off on a tangent, i get off my soap box now

I know it's a hard pill to swallow but I'd start at the rear of the car. If you've ever chucked a rear it's not pretty, When the axle comes out things can get out of control in a hurry. This is what changed my mind on my 84 Z/28. I really don't like the car and I wasn't about to put $2500 in the rearend that I'd never get back. So my 383 plans changed to a basic 350/TH350 combo just so I can get rid of it with out spending a arm and a leg. If your gonna keep the car I'd put a rearend in it first. Just my $.02

yea i have been in a car when the axles blew, in a late 70's F-100 ranger with the famous 9" rear end, it had a 351M in it that didn't have that much power, and we were at a stop light taking off like normal, no hotrodding when ping,pow,bang,bam, and im sure some 4-letter words, we got out and gear oil was all over the road, and the passanger tire/axle was starting to slide out of the rearend housing, a pedestrian helped us push it to a parking lot as one of us keep pushing in on the tire (im sure it did nothing as it just keep't sliding out, we got it home opened up the centersection and there was metal shards everywhere, nothing was salvageable, great 9"

anyway, i still think that i will stay with the stock housing for now, ive seen pleanty hittin the strip, and ive seen all kinds of rears blow, ill replace the weak componets in the rear and buy a set of decent gears and hope for the best, when it does blow, ill either pull everthing out of the camaro and put it in another car or ill buy an aftermarket 12bolt

The transmission is a later style 86 or 87. It was rebuilt by a shop specifically to handle power. However, in retrospect the shop I took it to isn't a "performance transmission" shop. I probably would've been better off getting one from a shop that builds performance 700's every day. It's been fine and it hasn't blown up, but I think I paid more than it's worth.

Regarding your tranny options, it really comes down to how good the guy is that can build it for you. If he builds performance 700's regularly, that is a big plus in my books.

I'm running a 8.5" rearend that has been built to handle slicks an power. It was built by a performance rearend shop and I'm very confident in it. It definitely was not cheap. But a bulletproof rearend is money well spent in my opinion.