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Old 02-08-2008, 03:59 PM
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4 Bangers

Is any one building hot rods with 4 bangers? I'm looking to build a speedster or lakes modified, with a 4 banger. My donor car is a '87 Volvo. I'm trying to get ideas for the build-up. The Grinch stepped in around Christmas and took my frame, so I'm back to square one. Pictures would help!

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Old 02-08-2008, 06:50 PM
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Haven't seen one lately, but I remember seeing a neat little roadster with a 2.3L OHC Ford a couple years back at a show. It had been breathed on a little and it that light car it probably was a lot of fun.
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4 Bangers

When ever I hear the words "4 banger modified" I think of the car that ruined my life, Bo Jones's little burner. I haven't been the same since the first time I saw it in Rod & Custom.

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I've never seen one in person but I have seen a few in the magazines over the years. I've got a '27 T body in the garage that I've given serious thought to putting a hopped up 4 popper in. I even saw a low mileage V_Tec Honda motor and trans. for sale that looked tempting. That would be on the verge of blasphemy though.
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For my next project, I'm considering a 29 to 32 Ford Coupe with a VW turbo diesel 4 banger.
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Heres a neat one,Be sure to watch the video




http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl...car/index.html

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Old 02-08-2008, 10:37 PM
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What do you know about the engine? (Model, displacement, EFI/carb? Electronically controlled ignition?)
How about the transmission? Is it electronically controlled?
The more computers involved in the system, the harder it will be to get it working properly in your rod.
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For what its worth...theres an outfit in Lake Havasu Az. that builds Toyota R-20 and R-22 engines for track t type cars. Side draft webers or what ever you like with a 5 spd. They get 250 -275 hp out of them, it was in Street Rodder mag last yr. or so. I'll try to find it tomorrow.
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4 cyl

There is an actual boat motor called a mercruiser 470. It is a very large aluminum block 4 Cylinder that uses a ford 460 Head. It is a serious torque engine. This would be a great engine in a t- bucket or rat rod. It also has the alternator built into the crank balancer. Anyone have a photo of one of these.

About the Mercury Marine 470 / 3.7 Liter

The Mercury Marine 470 (224 CI in-line 4 cyl) was first introduced in 1976.
It was a powerful (170hp) 4 cylinder which was a popular alternative to the
old 160 and 165 in-line 6 cylinder.

The 470 uses an aluminum block which was designed and manufactured
by Mercury Marine. The iron head was from a Ford 460 V8 engine.

The 470 block was also used in the 170, 165 (3.7 Liter),
485 (4 barrel), 488 (4 barrel), 190 (4 barrel), and the 180 (3.7LX with 4 barrel).

All of the 470 and 3.7L versions used closed cooling systems.

The aluminum circulation pump impellar was located on the front end of the camshaft.
This required a way to separate the cooling system from the engines crankcase area.
The cam passes through two seals, which are press fit into the timing chain cover.

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Should be nice in a T bucket

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I'm planning on using the troublesome Olds Quad 4 in my T for a couple of reasons. I think it looks sexy with the coil pack gone. The intake is on the drivers side. The exhaust is on the passenger side. I'm hoping to get the motor in the next few weeks for a nice big box of donuts. I know Paris, a box of donuts might be paying too much.
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For what its worth...theres an outfit in Lake Havasu Az. that builds Toyota R-20 and R-22 engines for track t type cars. Side draft webers or what ever you like with a 5 spd. They get 250 -275 hp out of them, it was in Street Rodder mag last yr. or so. I'll try to find it tomorrow.
That's something worth looking into, I rode in an offroad race truck back in the late '80s with a 9000 RPM 22R Toyota motor in it and it was definitely fast.
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The ford ranger site guys have talked about using a volvo double cam head on the 2.3 ford.. I don't know what is imvolved but you might check the Ranger Bronco II ...Mazda sites
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Your budget is going to be what dictates your direction. When you said your donor car was a Volvo, did you mean you were planning to use that engine? Depending on how much of it is computer controlled, it would probably be a good, dependable driver motor. Drawback here would be performance. Since the rod would be light weight, it will probably scoot along ok, but I'm not really aware of any aftermarket parts for this motor to speak of.

There are lots of 4 bangers out there that speed parts abound for; that's the direction I'd go. Trick here is to find one made for RWD. Some of the FWD engines can't be switched.

That marine 4 cyl. sounds like something neat. But keep in mind that when you say the word "marine", the price goes way up. Also, important, check to see that this engine rotates the right way. Some marine engines rotate the opposite way from a car engine...something to do with torque steer. You don't want your little rod to have 4 speeds in Reverse.

It would pay you to spend some time on the internet, doing some research on 4 cylinder speed parts. Pick the ones that have the most stuff available at the best prices. The 2.3 L Fords are still used in a lot of mini-stock classes, so parts are plentiful for them, and they can make over 200 hp. easily. Something else, different but viable, the VW beetle engine. You could make your car mid-engne, using regular Vdub driveline, or put it up front. It's light, small, and able to make serious horsepower.
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turbo volvo motors are awesome motors. check out turbobricks.com

you'll find out volvos are the honda civics of europe , if you spend a lot of cash 400hp is possible. I'll be honest with you though, 87 had weak internals due to funky internal harmonics. One tiny bit of detonation at high boost and you will destroy that motor instantly. The later blocks can take alot more abuse. That said. 250hp can be atained for a reasonable layout of cash.
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