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Old 02-13-2005, 04:30 PM
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There are only a couple of things I'd do different. First of all a 2 bolt block is the best choice to start off with. That is our choice for all hot street, late model and super late motors. What you really want to do is retrofit the block with splayed Oliver steel mains and have the block align bored and honed to size. I would also have the block decked and squared. Prior to all this I'd have it checked for cracks. That's what you'd want to do if you run a stock style block and try to make 600 HP.

As for the cam that is almost exactly what I would use, including the lobe sep. You have to keep it wide (even though 110 is not that wide) so it will idle with that amount of duration and a streetable compresison ratio.

On the intake I would suggest a Victor E, much better plenum volume.

You do not want to run a blower and make 1000 HP with a stock block.

On the dyno I would would expect to see around 525 to 535 HP with your combo.

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Old 02-13-2005, 11:13 PM
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Regardless of if you build a pump gas motor not, I would recommend an intercooler, cooler air equals more hp. I think the F1R would be a great match for your combo with the AFR 210cc heads. If you ran an air to air intercooler with this setup, 8.5:1 compression and 10-12 lbs of boost, you would be looking at around 800 hp pretty easily especially if you used the comp package heads. Running 8.5:1 and an intercooler would also allow you to run up to around 20 lbs of boost and stay on pump gas if you wanted to. If you wanted to run more boost, up the compression, and run race gas, you would just make that much more hp.

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Am I going to be the first to say it makes no damned sense to trash those canfield heads for AFR in a blown application. Those heads will support huge numbers under boost. The AFR has a slight edge, but IMO it is not at all worth the money to switch unless you can get almost all the money out of the canfields. I would not take a loss to gain a couple HP.

As for the block, as mentioned have it checked and splayed caps along with a tall grout if you want it to live at those HP levels. Still might crack, but it will have a better chance.

And, you should pick an ebay auction that matches your location on your profile. I dont think that Buffalo, New York qualifies as "The Dirty South". I realize that you could be changing your location due to cyberspace, but you can imagine how it looks along with your questionable posting. There are alot of people who do just what you did with your post because it is fun to dream. Those of us who work full time at good jobs and have saved for years or paid for years on credit cards to pay off engines like you are talking about building, have a hard time with what you are saying. On the other hand, I have met some young guns on the track that have engines I could not come close to affording.

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Old 02-14-2005, 07:24 PM
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Everyone I have talked to has told me ARF210's. I paid $1,450 for the canfields I could probably get 800 for them on ebay I highly doubt anywhere near what I paid for them. I think I might just do a piston change.

and I DO LIVE IN BUFFALO, NY!!!! Unfortunately...lol

I dont remember when I put the dirty south. I put goofy stuff in my profiles on alot of forums. I made this name awhile ago and firgured I would try this forum to get some more opinions. Whatever I'm not here to make everyone a believer. If people wana call BS on me they can do that I know I have the motor in my garage and the car in my storage garage thats all that matters. Maybe when I list my Pistons and Nitrous kit for sale on Ebay I'll make a few shoutouts to the nonbelievers on this site I actually tried to with my motor sale but it wouldnt let me add anything with only 2 hours remaining. O well
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Ok, first off.. that carb is way too damn big. And good luck getting any vacuum with that cam, thats pretty radical dude. also.. 11.4:1 compression? Leave the compression in the 10s.

Second off, its not un believeable that a 19 y/o is building a nice 400+ ci motor. Ive just finished building my 408 ci amc v8, which is alot more costly to build than any gm or ford motor. heres my setup, (similar to the build in carcraft)
401 amc v8 (factory forged rods, crank)
.30 over forged speedpro pistons, 10.2:1
comp 292 cam (244 intake/exhaust @.50, .510 lift, 110 lsa)
comp cams valvetrain
arp rod bolts
air gap intake manifold
51 cc heads, ported

this setup is pretty much identical to my friends, who dynoed at 400 whp, close to 460 ft lbs of torque, ran 11.9's in his amx. Im 19 and built this motor entirely myself, spent about 4 grand all together.
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Old 02-15-2005, 07:10 AM
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see....who says the economy is so bad ? if 19 yr old kids are building 4K engines Id say thats doin pretty good.
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Some kids go out and spend all the money they earn on clothes and drugs and alcohol and movie tickets, i spend it on my car. Well the other things too, but not as much :p
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