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cuppy65 02-07-2013 01:33 AM

41 chevy tire rub
 
I have this 41 chevy with a early nova or camaro sub frame and the tires rub when I turn. If I,m careful I can drive it almost anywhere,and I do, but I,m getting tired of being so careful. I have another uncut 41 frame and I know I should use it and put a IFS in front but the work and money are just to much. And the car drives,steers and sits so nice the way it is!If I could jut find smaller rims and maybe some taller springs. Does any one know what rims might give me a inch . I now have 14 by 6 olds rims and I can't find anything smaller that will clear the disc brakes.Any thoughts? :confused:

gearheadslife 02-07-2013 03:01 AM

if it is indead a g.m. front clip.. the lug pattern.. you can get wheels in any backspace/width you'd ever need..
is it rubbing on the outer fender or inner..
changing the backspacing is all you'll need.. to move the rim in or out..

cuppy65 02-07-2013 02:46 PM

tire rub
 
Yes the tire hits the fender. I was hoping to find a junk yard set of rims that were 14x5 but I don't think they ever made rims that narrow for disc brake cars. Chevy bolt pattern 5 x 4.75

jaw22w 02-07-2013 03:44 PM

What is the backspacing on your current rims? Just get rims with 1" less backspacing. That should fix the rub.

MARTINSR 02-07-2013 04:00 PM

There are also narrower control arms made to bring the wheels in, I think Fatman has them but they are quite a few bucks. And here lies the reason I sold off my Camaro subbed frame for my truck, they are just too much trouble for what you get. I had a very narrow stock 65 Skylark 14 inch wheel and it still rubbed the fender at full lock. There may be some cool old 4" Centerlines with 5:20s or something that would work.

Brian

aosborn 02-07-2013 07:29 PM

If on the front suspension that you have, the upper a-arm mounts inboard of the frame mount you can install longer upper inner a-arm bolts and move the upper control arm in 1/2 to 3/4". Then, if you can weld or know someone who can, cut and narrow the lower control arm the same 1/2" to 3/4" (this is a good time to replace the lower ball joints).

If the upper control arm is outboard of the frame mount, you will have to cut and shorten that one as well.

You may have to trim the inner and outer tie rod ends a bit to make up for the narrowing to set the toe, but there may be enough adjustment without having to do that.

Doing this will alter the suspension geometry but narrowing only a small amount won't cause any issues with normal driving and is a cheap way to improve or eliminate a clearance issue with the outer fender lip.

Regards,

Andy

fwinter01 02-07-2013 07:47 PM

41 ya
 
So glad that your building that post war project, sorry I can't help with your issues but YA get great build

OneMoreTime 02-07-2013 08:56 PM

I am wondering if you can turn the lip on the fender and gain just enough to get the clearance that you need??

Sam

enjenjo 02-08-2013 01:08 PM

I dured this problem on a 46 Chevy by using S10 4x4 steel wheels. They have 2" more offset in. Unfortunately they only come in 15". 78 to 85 Riv anf Toro uses rge same wheel. The only change I had to make to the front suspension was to use Chevelle steering arms which are shorter, and a bit higher, to clear the inner edge of the rim. Yes, I know the Chevelle is front steer, but you can reverse them for rear steer.

aosborn 02-08-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by enjenjo (Post 1644077)
I dured this problem on a 46 Chevy by using S10 4x4 steel wheels. They have 2" more offset in. Unfortunately they only come in 15". 78 to 85 Riv anf Toro uses rge same wheel. The only change I had to make to the front suspension was to use Chevelle steering arms which are shorter, and a bit higher, to clear the inner edge of the rim. Yes, I know the Chevelle is front steer, but you can reverse them for rear steer.

Didn't reversing the steering arms seriously screw up the ackerman angle?

cuppy65 02-08-2013 02:44 PM

rub
 
Thanks everyone for the ideas. I found a pair of 14x5 steel wheels with a 3.5 inch backspace that should clear the disc caliper . That and some higher springs should make it better

cuppy65 02-08-2013 03:02 PM

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Thought i would try to post a few pic. One is the 41 chevy I've been driving and the other is a 50 dodge I have almost done.

enjenjo 02-08-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by aosborn (Post 1644086)
Didn't reversing the steering arms seriously screw up the ackerman angle?

The arm angles out when on the front, it angles in when you reverse them. The Ackerman seems to be ok, the car drives nice.

455olds 02-20-2013 07:45 AM

Nice looking cars.

496CHEVY3100 03-07-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuppy65 (Post 1643815)
Yes the tire hits the fender. I was hoping to find a junk yard set of rims that were 14x5 but I don't think they ever made rims that narrow for disc brake cars. Chevy bolt pattern 5 x 4.75

Yes GM did make a 14x5x4.75 also a 13x5x 4.75 they were on 65 66 corvairs ,the bottle shape not the square body ,i have one 13 that was a spare tire but some one shoulkd have plenty,these are steel wheels.:D


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