[Fnix]

I want to turn my old dodge truck into a 10 second truck. But it weighs 5500 lbs with driver and thats stripped. I was wanting to get an old 440 and have it built up with mods. I was wondering what kind of horsepower would I need to squeeze out of a 440 to move a 2 ton vehicle that fast? Is it worth it.

[oldbogie]

Originally Posted by Fnix

I want to turn my old dodge truck into a 10 second truck. But it weighs 5500 lbs with driver and thats stripped. I was wanting to get an old 440 and have it built up with mods. I was wondering what kind of horsepower would I need to squeeze out of a 440 to move a 2 ton vehicle that fast? Is it worth it.

You'd need about 900 hp on the end of the crankshaft.

Bogie

[techinspector1]

You're gonna need TWO 440 motors.

[327NUT]

"is it worth it" ....well thats up to you, you're talking a Blown, stroker 480'ish race motor to get 900 hp + total competion 727 trans. and conv., race suspension and Dana 60 rear......LOTS of money!!!! Like the old saying go's......"How fast you wanna go? how much money you got"

[tomslik]

plus you're gonna break a LOT of stuff trying to move 2 tons quickly...

[red65mustang]

yup, 5500lbs and 900hp=10.57

here's some calculators you can play with:

http://www.tciauto.com/Products/Tech...alculators.asp

leave the 440 stock so you can drive to the strip,,,, mount a J47 jet engine in the truck bed....

[Crazy Mopar Guy]

Haha
The responses in this thread are pretty funny....

Try Googlesearching for "Mr.Marine", also known as "Clutch" on the forums.... Mark Reyers- he's gone in the 9's, his truck has very modest rear tires, he has NOT gutted the truck- still has the heater etc and he runs on pump gas with no power adders, he ran a 9.88 at over 131mph in the 1/4 mile....

http://www.dragtruk.com/BIN/displayp...LQ0GJ563V3.jpg

[327NUT]

Moparguy....whats funny about it? nobodies doggin this guy or Mopar in general, and yes the blue truck is VERY fast but i'll bet it doesn't weigh 5500 lbs either. I'd like to know just how much money he has tied up in that 512" motor and the rest of the combo.

The folks replying to the thread are just trying to give "FNIX" a little info on what lies ahead of him thats all......

[Crazy Mopar Guy]

Just that the replies are a bit "all over the map" ...

512 strokers aren't extremely expensive in the drag racing world, I'm sure if you email Mark on his site he can tell you specifics. He has NO power adders, no nitrous, no blower, no turbo, he's naturally aspirated, and on pump gas. Through the mufflers. Street legal tires.

What is FNIX's truck? If it weighs 5500 pounds stripped it is pretty danged heavy, but we have 10 second Dodge Ram Cummins turbo diesels running at our track, I think one went high 9's at over 135mph.

It's possible for sure, doesn't REQUIRE a blower, it's all in the imagination.

Going 10's in a car isn't something to be done cheaply, so going 10s in a truck won't be either.

Just the safety equipment involved for running under 11.49 on the track will cost money.

Mounting a jet engine in the bed was MEANT to be funny.
I hope.

LOL

[Crazy Mopar Guy]

Originally Posted by techinspector1

You're gonna need TWO 440 motors.

Hmmm....
LOL!!!!!!!!!

I dunno. what IS funny?

[red65mustang]

yup, add a jet engine was meant as a joke and make a point....but....it has been done many times....

here's a killer U-Tube example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wub8risuQK4

he needs to re-think the whole project...
takes roughly 600HP which you can do with a streetable 440 on NOS to do a 10 with 3400lbs of weight....

[Fnix]

Ok let me ask another one. What is the most you could get out of a NA 440 under $2000 for starters? I will start here obviously.

[ScoTFrenzel]

Originally Posted by Fnix

Ok let me ask another one. What is the most you could get out of a NA 440 under $2000 for starters? I will start here obviously.

You mean $2000 added to an already running 440?

You can get about 480 dyno without porting the heads, which will cost another $1200 and get you around 530 at the crankshaft. (If someone like Steve Dulcich does the porting). Alum heads alone will cost almost 2 grand.

Pulling almost THREE TONS, you don't need rpm horsepower, you need torque.

We have built several 440 trucks. A 70-85 half ton weighs 3600 pounds plus driver, we weigh em.
A month ago we weighed a 77 short wheel base slick side with 383 B block and 727 in full street trim, no AC, and it scaled 3550 with a full tank of gas and wide tires.

You must have a one ton dually.

[Fnix]

Originally Posted by ScoTFrenzel

You mean $2000 added to an already running 440?

You can get about 480 dyno without porting the heads, which will cost another $1200 and get you around 530 at the crankshaft. (If someone like Steve Dulcich does the porting). Alum heads alone will cost almost 2 grand.

Pulling almost THREE TONS, you don't need rpm horsepower, you need torque.

We have built several 440 trucks. A 70-85 half ton weighs 3600 pounds plus driver, we weigh em.
A month ago we weighed a 77 short wheel base slick side with 383 and 727 in full street trim, no AC, and it scaled 3550 with a full tank of gas and wide tires.

Thanks you summed it up for me. My truck is a longbed and with driver and fluids weighs 5500 lbs. I may just take the bed off it.

[ScoTFrenzel]

Originally Posted by Fnix

Thanks you summed it up for me. My truck is a longbed and with driver and fluids weighs 5500 lbs. I may just take the bed off it.

What do you have that weighs 5300 pounds?