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Old 12-29-2011, 10:52 PM
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440 into a 74' Scamp

Hi All,

I am a "young new enthusiast" in the Mopar world, so please forgive my lack of knowledge. I have two questions, is a Plymouth Scamp an A body, and is a 440 a good candidate for it? It is a 74' and currently has 70,000 original miles with a slant six. I don't have the car yet but I have the 440 that a friend has given me. Thanks for any responses.

p.s. I am a welder and I have some experience in custom fabrication if there would be a need for modifications to make the engine fit. I don't however want to have to cut out the whole front end to make it work.

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Well to get started,After you remove the slant6,you will need to find a v8 "K FRAME".Any V8 dart will work(70 to 74,75).Also your going to want to replace thetorsion bars with larger diameter ones.I'd look to find the spec's on a older big block dodge dart.This will help your prodject.Another item you'll want to consider using is frame connectors.Because most mopars are uni-body.Alot depends on what your end use is going to be.Drag racing,hot street use.But any way you look at it,440 is a lot heavier than a slant6 and will produce a lot more power.Good luck,
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That sounds awesome. Sorry I can't offer any help because I know nothing about what you can shoehorn into that little plymouth, or whether it has been done before, I just wanted to say that sounds awesome if it can be done.
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Well to get started,After you remove the slant6,you will need to find a v8 "K FRAME".Any V8 dart will work(70 to 74,75).Also your going to want to replace thetorsion bars with larger diameter ones.I'd look to find the spec's on a older big block dodge dart.This will help your prodject.Another item you'll want to consider using is frame connectors.Because most mopars are uni-body.Alot depends on what your end use is going to be.Drag racing,hot street use.But any way you look at it,440 is a lot heavier than a slant6 and will produce a lot more power.Good luck,
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No drag, just street. Might go with forged crank though and give it a shot of boost once in a while.

All in all, that doesn't sound to bad. I think i'll give it a go. This bod seems to be in great shape that's all. No accidents and no rust. Always parked inside and original owner with reciept. She is asking $4000. I may be able to recoup some onthe working slant 6 and drivetrain that's already in there. Thanks again!

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Well to get started,After you remove the slant6,you will need to find a v8 "K FRAME".Any V8 dart will work(70 to 74,75).Also your going to want to replace thetorsion bars with larger diameter ones.I'd look to find the spec's on a older big block dodge dart.This will help your prodject.Another item you'll want to consider using is frame connectors.Because most mopars are uni-body.Alot depends on what your end use is going to be.Drag racing,hot street use.But any way you look at it,440 is a lot heavier than a slant6 and will produce a lot more power.Good luck,
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No drag, just street. Might go with forged crank though and give it a shot of boost once in a while.

All in all, that doesn't sound to bad. I think i'll give it a go. This bod seems to be in great shape that's all. No accidents and no rust. Always parked inside and original owner with reciept. She is asking $4000. I may be able to recoup some onthe working slant 6 and drivetrain that's already in there. Thanks again!

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Check out the link fellow canuck. I've used their conversion mounts and headers. Quality stuff.
http://www.engine-swaps.com/
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Check out the link fellow canuck. I've used their conversion mounts and headers. Quality stuff.
http://www.engine-swaps.com/
That's Awesome RWENUTS,

So it looks like the K member itself doesn't need to be replaced, just modified to accept the 440 block and oil pump. Does that spin about right? Thanks again.

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Sounds about right. I used their mounts for a 360 in my 64 fury and later a 440 and 727. Fit perfect. Their tri-Y headers are highly recommended. I think you can contact them direct if you have questions. I talked to them a couple times. Good people to deal with.
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Good to know that someone is making Mopar engine swaps easier. My friend who is a Mopar fanatic says that the big block in a Demon/Scamp/Dart goes like stink, but is an evil handling piece on the street due to the increased front end weight. He says he prefers a 0.030"-over 360 with a 4" crank, 408 CID.
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Well I've got my work cut out putting that 440 into a Scamp. But I Love a challange! And for my first build a challange it will be....but i'm not alone. I've always got you guys and gals to come and lean on when the going gets tough...I hope at least. lol.

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Aluminum heads and intake will lighten things up a little.
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Aluminum heads and intake will lighten things up a little.
Thanks for the pointer. I was planning on using my 452's...but I could lighten the load probably by about 60lbs if I go that route....thoughts to ponder. Thanks again.

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Aluminum heads and intake will lighten things up a little.
You will save a bit of weight on a "B" or "RB" Mopar by using aluminum heads. However, the stock cast iron heads are light when compared with their Chevy counterparts. That's why a BBC in stock form weighs more than an RB Mopar. Besides aluminum heads which can be pricy, the biggest weight savings per dollar on almost any engine is an aluminum intake and headers.

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Anyone know the approx curb weight of a 78' slant six Scamp?

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