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Old 10-22-2004, 02:43 PM
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460 Ford wont turn over. Please advise!!!!

Hi guys, i`ve been gone from the site for awhile. However, i do need your help. I just installed a Ford 460 that was rebuilt by "Global" in Seattle. IT is a long block. The engine was pre oiled. The timing was set with No. 1 on compression. The problem is that with the plugs in the engine drags over real slow. With the plugs out it spins fine. I replaced the old starter and relay, with the same result. All the cables are new. The tag says the engine has 185 psi compression. I am not a Ford guy, but reading the book it apears the valves are set by the builder by push rod length. Does that nean they are none adjustable? The engine does pop and farts, but it is turning slow slow, nothing really takes off.I really need your help on this one fella`s!! Have a super fun day today, and hea, thanks in advance.
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Old 10-22-2004, 04:40 PM
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There were no 460 Fords that came from the factory with adjustable valves. The only 385 series engine I know with adjustable valves were the 429 CJ and 429 SCJ. It also sounds like you are a tooth off on the distributor, but I could be wrong. I had a similar problem with a new motor that I put in my boat this summer. It would crank real slow and wouldn't start, just sputter, it even melted the post on a brand new battery. I checked everything on this motor and it was right. I eventually got it started by using starting fluid, the motor was real tight, it now runs great after I broke it in. I hate to suggest using starting fluid on a new motor but that was the only way I could get mine to fire up.
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Slider,

I would put in the next larger size battery cables. It sounds like with all the new parts the starter is drawing all the amps out of the battery JUST to get the thing to turn over. Also, you might hook two batteries together so there are more "cranking" amps on hand.
I think that once you get the beast running, things will loosen up and you will be able to use just one battery.
As for the popping and odd sounds I would triple check the firing order and distrubutor rotation.

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Jump it from another car and see what happens...let us know. Simple experiment that may explain the probem.
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Slider, good to see you on the air again. Most likely you have a timing issue. A quick check is to rotate the distributor fully to the retard position, try cranking (did it get easier or no change) and then go full the other way to check for change in cranking/farting. Most likely, this will tell you for sue if it is timing and you can go from there.

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