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Old 05-04-2004, 05:41 PM
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460 in'37 coupe

Hi, I have just bought a '37 Ford coupe, has stock beam with discs and still uses radius rods.
It has 350/Muncie combo but the guy I got it off wants to keep them, I have a '70 460 Ford and top-loader I want to fit, I've done engine swaps before but want some experienced advice.
I know my 460 sump is at the wrong end but help please!

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C'monguys, surely SOMEBODY out there has fitted a big-block Ford into a '37 Ford with original style front suspension!!
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You can find a oil pan with a rear sump out of a mid 80s 250-350 E and F series.Be sure to get the special main bolt that holds the pick up tube also.
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SD, there is barely room enough for a SBC and even less for a SBF. If you want a BBF, then think about moving the firewall and floorboards back and no side pannels on the hood and possible inner fender removal/mods. You can see for yourself by taking a tape measure to a built up BBF and the empty engine compartment to see where all the difficulty lies and ask yourself if the cubes are worth it.

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460 in '37

Trees, thanks for the reply, the reason i want to do this is that the sbc is staying with the guy I am getting the coupe from and I have an early 460/tunnel-ram/big-input toploader I have sitting around and want to build an all-Ford traditional type rod (steel rims, fenderwell headers, flame paint job etc.
Going by the dimensions in a magazine the bbf is about 2-1/2 inches bigger in all dimensions but it is the sump clearance that is the biggest worry - that and the fact our cars in New Zealand have the steering box on the right side, the same side as the starter motor.
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Re: 460 in '37

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Going by the dimensions in a magazine the bbf is about 2-1/2 inches bigger in all dimensions but it is the sump clearance that is the biggest worry - that and the fact our cars in New Zealand have the steering box on the right side, the same side as the starter motor.
I had the same problem with my '53 hemi in my '36 Willys coupe- the starter was on the left side of the engine, same side as the U.S. steering. I welded a starter mount on the passenger side of my bell-housing and got room for the steering gear that way.

As far as the pan problem goes, I also had a situation similar to yours. Had a friend who wanted to put a front sump 440 Chrysler engine in a mid 60s Plymouth Satellite that wanted a rear sump. I cut the oil pan up and moved the sump to the rear. Then I made a new oil pickup tube that sat in the new sump and fed oil to the front mounted pump. Probably not the best way to do it but it worked great. He used it for cruising, not racing so the long pickup tube didn't cause any problem.
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willys36, thanks for the reply man, I also have had to make a change to a sump like you described - it was to fit a 429 into my '55 F100 that had a Holden subframe fitted to it (sort of a right-hand drive Camaro sub-frame).
I had to make the deep part at the rear (with extra capacity) and an extremely skilled buddy welded a boss at the rear of the Ford oil-pump and fitted a long piece of chrome-moly tube to it with a Y-block pickup pan on the end of it - ten years later and numerous drags it still works well.
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