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Old 01-29-2012, 11:29 PM
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5 best cars ever?

I don't see a companion thread to the 5 worst cars ever, so here goes:
1) '95 Corvette convertible LT1 / ZF / Z51, had the big brakes as standard, best year for the actually great LT1, best chassis to put a big-block in, as per Chevrolet's own "Big Doggie", could do a copy of the Callaway / Lingenfelter Sledgehammer ( which the Bugatti Veyron wishes it could be )
2) '02 Z28 SS, could run high 12s right off the showroom floor, aalso carry wife and 2 kids, lay down 315 RWHP, and do 32 MPG with careful driving. No other car ever built can lay claim to all 4 accomplishments, bone stock, at any price, let alone that price.
3) '89 Mustang LX 5.0 notchback, offered a/c delete, radio delete, back seat delete, first year for best T5 offered, last year for no airbags, first year for mass-air instead of speed-density
4) '92-'93 GMC Typhoon, comfortable seating for 4 adults, more potential and more towing than the Grand National, plus the AWD so you could have fun even if it was raining. Still embarasses Mitsu Evos and Subaru STIs, though more mods needed every year. Even so, still fun and still cheaper. Plus cheap and easy to fake, except the ground effects, if you can't find a legit version.
5) '93 Ford Lightning: Most of the fun of the 454SS, but better MPG, and better handling than a same-year Mustang GT, let alone the nose-heavy 454SS, but still could haul a real load, cheap and easy to copy once you figure out the correct springs and sway bars.
Honorable mentions?
I'll say the '93-'95 Mazda RX7 R1: Small, light, beautiful, excellent chassis and suspension, came on good wheels and tires but can fit even more, can fit an LSx V8 and destroy all Vipers with ease, plus get way way more MPG than any Viper. Didn't make #1 because of cost, and because it wasn't American.
I'll also say the '92-'93 GM 1-ton dually with the 6.5 turbodiesel without computer control, and the 4L80E, or the NV4500. Excellent looks, comfort, and aero, excellent chassis & suspension, begging for a Cummins 6BT 5.9L swap. Greatest work truck ever, by far. Actually able to pay for itself plus everything else I just listed. How can that not be great?

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ok. I'll play

1) g.m. g body, tons made, rear drive,enough models that alot where grandma cars(low miles) ls engines fit... big enough for the family man.. and even the sport models can be found in clean/well taken care of shape..
1/8th of the cost of the 65-72 muscle cars that are the same basic car..
2) the 84 vette, first c4 vette, crossfirevette so collectors stored them away. only to find they are not going to be worth barrels of money, bad for them great for you.. handles better than most drivers skill level stock..one of the last models without all the electronics controlling the handle'n.(lesscost to fix/mod) ls engines make it handle even better... no ones gonna steal it..(leave the crossfire badge on) and the vette owners won't give you hell for cutting up a vette.. can get a low miles/clean one for same money, or lessthan you'll pay for a clean fox body mustang..
3) fox body mustangs.. farly lite, cheap, todays 55-57 chevy.. oh and gets faster with a chevy drivetrain.. with the newer mustangs being as cheap. the fox is less wanted,= cheaper..
4)80-90 grand mark big solid car with real steel bumpers.. yes they look like railroad ties.. but, after owning a few rubber I'll take the railroadties please..
5)82-90's s-10 cheap, the 2.5/stick would run forever, v8's drop in with allitle work.. 3.8 buicks bolt in , easy to build a sleeper.. cheaply

Honorable mentions?
1)85-92 f body.. didn't make the cut because top model clean ones are not cheap.. even tho I love the look of the 85-98 t/a , ls slides in..
2)mid 80's t bird/lsc ford used the same basic underpining so mustang parts bolt on.. ad farmont/ltdII to that list
3)76-77 cutlass, there was a reason it was the #1 selling car those years.. finding a clean sport model will cost you.. last one I looked at sold for 19k in white with porn red gut, buckets,console and tilt/power windows/locks and cruise..

if I didn't have my monte SS(86) I'd go find a 84 vette to build..
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Great choices there. I've done the SBC V8 in my '89 Mustang, amazing how badly I had to butcher the car to get the engine correctly located relative to the front axle centerline. I've done the V8 S-10, it never had any traction below 40 MPH. MPG barely topped 22. Far from the 28 MPG possible from a Syclone.
'84 'vette is competent for most drivers, and a good value until you add the cost of the LS swap. Add a big block, and suddenly you need the big brakes and improved suspension geometry of the '88-up. But the '84 Z51 did have the ultra-stiff front spring needed for the big block swap. '85 had softer springs but bigger bars, the '85 Z51 front bar would help with a big block.
G-body, that's the Regal / Cutlass Supreme / Monte Carlo, right? Never offered any manual transmission, way too much front overhang made the Monte look doofy.
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monty overhang, is about the same as the 82-92 f body.. just taller
they did in fact come with sticks. the el camico, the malbu and the 84 monty SS mexico.. usa got stiffed on that one

the 88 vettes are to much money.. when looking at the 84.. most couldn't use the braking power to need the 88 up bigger set up..
an 6.2 caddy all alum lsIII is under 2k with 40-60k

if I ever get the chance I'll be installing a 6.2 in my g body..
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