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Old 03-23-2007, 08:08 PM
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50$ mixing station

I just picked this up of of craigslist the other day. I'm not sure what paint used to be in it but it has faded areas that say ICI autocolor. I figure it does matter I got it assembled and it works perfectly. I guess for 50 bucks it was worth it just for the explosion proof motor. Well for now it will go into storage till I find a shop. What do you think I would expect to pay for a set of dupont chromabase toners? I am open to suggestions but I like dupont way more than ppg or sikkens. Sikkens is just to f'ing expensive and the results just don't outweight the cost. 325 per sprayable gallon of clear is ridiculous. Has anyone here used matrix systems there price is really reasonable just wondering about there long term performance?
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Old 03-23-2007, 10:21 PM
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Toners are up to $100 each. I saw a complete DUPONT Chromabase mix station WITH toners go for around $275 on Ebay.Thats a screaming deal but NO shipping because its HazMat and the guy was in California and i was in Pa.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:16 AM
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The complete toners are about $6500 dollars or more.

Tell me, why do you want a mixing system? If you REALLY need one, DuPont is more than willing to GIVE YOU one for free. I am talking COMPLETE with toners, computer and scale, for FREE. If you REALLY need one. If you are buying a couple of thousand dollars a month in paint materials PPG, DuPont, S-W, NAPA Martin Senour, Most any paint company will GIVE YOU for FREE the whole shabang.

If you are NOT using enough paint for one of these companys to give you a system, you don't need one, plain as that.

All you have is a BUNCH of cost, a BUNCH of problems and a BUNCH of laws being broken where the fire dept can come in and fine the living hell out of you.

If you got some used toners off Ebay or something, how do you know they are good? How do you know they weren't spun for days with the cap half open and the solvent is all evaporated out and you have the weight all off so your colors won't match? How do you know if someone hasn't screwed with them? How do you know if you have the right ones, you could have a bunch that are not even used anymore in the formulas (with lead for instance) and NOT have the ones that are in the formulas used today (and the old ones are NOT available).

Toners are anywhere from $40.00 for quarts and $125.00 for gallons at the bottom end to many that are only available in gallons (about half the system) at $300.00 each. There are about 60 toners on a Chromasystem bank, you do the math. Then you have the dry pearls that are used a LOT in formulas, they are about $80.00 each and there are about 20.

When I used to change over a body shop from their paints to the one I was selling, these old toners were sent back and DESTROYED for a reason, they are JUNK or they would be keeping them.

Why was it you wanted a mixing system again?

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i agree with brian . mixing banks are a pia unless your running volume. you cant have toners setting for months . old paint is junk period.
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Your right I absolutly didn't need this thing but I figured for 50 I shouldn't pas on it If nothing else I could use the motor. I do plan on one day opening my own metal fabrication shop with an emphasis on custom automotive. I figured that when it comes time to buy a mixing system what paint co. I use will oufit everthing. I've heard numbers from 9-15 thousand dollars. As far as how much materials I use Right now I just doing side projects and using a few hundred a month, but thats ireliavant for now. I am not trying to put a mixing station with all toners in my garage thats just ludicris. When I do open a shop I know enough that it will be code w/epa and osha.
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